Here's an article I stumbled upon on NorthJersey.com

 

Seems people want to push NJ's gun laws on neighboring States. You know they're talking about PA.

 

Also moving the blame for illegal gun sales away from the gun shows, to individuals. People who many buy and sell a few here and there as a *hobby*. They refer to this as the secondary market, and say it's littered with loopholes, and is unregulated. Since hobbyists don't need a *license* to sell, and are not required to keep records of their transactions.

 

http://www.northjersey.com/news/1017404 ... _guns.html

Dupe I think.

 

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Well first of all......if Jerseys laws werent so strict, maybe there wouldnt be as many people smuggling guns into the state

 

And second. They make illegally owning a gun a minimum 3 years in jail. Thats fucking weak as hell. Anybody who owns a GUN illegally OBVIOUSLY does not have good intentions. If they obtained a gun illegally, it probably means they already have a criminal background.....and on top of that to illegally own a gun they obviously dont have it so they can go to the range....they have malicious intentions with it. They need to make that shit like minimum 15 years, and 50k fine. Fuck this weak bullshit.

Well first of all......if Jerseys laws werent so strict, maybe there wouldnt be as many people smuggling guns into the state

 

And second. They make illegally owning a gun a minimum 3 years in jail. Thats friggin weak as hell. Anybody who owns a GUN illegally OBVIOUSLY does not have good intentions. If they obtained a gun illegally, it probably means they already have a criminal background.....and on top of that to illegally own a gun they obviously dont have it so they can go to the range....they have malicious intentions with it. They need to make that **** like minimum 15 years, and 50k fine. fugg this weak bs.

Careful what you wish for... Ever hear the Brady Bunch claim "a gun in the home is ten times more likely to injure/kill a family member than an intruder" well I know one fact about guns, a NJ gun law is 10 times more likely to ruin an honest person

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never underestimate some a** prosecutor's zeal to put away an innocent, law abiding citizen for protecting him/herself from a criminal. criminals have more rights in this state than their victims.

I didnt say anything about protecting the criminals. I believe that the gun laws in this state are too strict. But they need to pick a side, and 3 years for possessing an illegal gun is NOT strict.

I didnt say anything about protecting the criminals. I believe that the gun laws in this state are too strict. But they need to pick a side, and 3 years for possessing an illegal gun is NOT strict.

 

There is no such thing as an illegal gun; somewhere, someone can legally possess any gun... No one should be precluded from owing any firearm unless they have done something in their past that invalidates their right to do so

My bad, I posted that in haste. Illegally possessing a gun. Same set of words, I just got them in the wrong order :oops:

My God Im glad I left NJ! When will it be realized that strict gun laws do NOTHING to deter crime and in fact embolden the criminal (who better to rob than the unarmed?).

 

I left NJ about 6 years ago and moved to PA. I am now the proud owner of a 1915 Erfurt Mauser, Ruger Mk III and Ruger 10/22 (for my 10 soon-to-be 11 year old daughter to use for target competition), a 1936 Savage 29 and a Ruger P95. I can open carry in this state, as well as CCW (with a 5 year LTCF), things unheard of back home.

 

I think it will take a long time for you guys to change the mindset in many of the voters in NJ who are still clinging to the belief that strict(er) gun laws equate to safety. That article was pretty pathetic.

 

Good Luck guys!

as well as CCW (with a 5 year LTCF)

 

CC > OC, hands down. Lucky bastard.