Would a thumbhole stock on a 10/22 be considered a pistol grip?

I have wondered the same about my PAP....

Kind of an important question. I'm thinking about building one, and I would like a threaded barrel. Have not decided between a thumbhole stock and Hogue stock yet.

Just call the NJSP and ask. I'm sure they'll give you a rational response, like banning all Ruger 10/22s.

thumbhole stocks are typically not pistol grips, afaik.

 

I have seen plenty of 10/22's in boyd's thumbhole stocks.

No they are not. They are perfectly legal. I have a few on my semi rifles

Somewhere there lies a fine line from becoming a thumbhole stock to a pistol gripped stock. Where that is in New Jersey has yet to be determined. Kalifornia's law defines what they consider a pistol grip.

CA 11 CCR 5469(d) says "pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon" means a grip that allows for a pistol style grasp in which the web of the trigger hand (between the thumb and index finger) can be placed below the top of the exposed portion of the trigger while firing.

 

Should this same interpretation apply here (it may well be), a lot of thumbhole stocked rifles would be considered pistol grips and therefore making one's rifle an "Assault Weapon". IMO, the 10/22 pictured above is a thumbhole. But, I question this one.

Nope its a thumbhole, there's a connection butt to grip. That makes it a legal thumbhole. Take a look at the dragunov SKS stocks

I THINK that some of the imported "assault weapon" type firearms have thumbhole stocks to make importation easier.. i THINK it has something to do with them being "sporting" guns as opposed to military style weapons.. with that said many companies make guns like that with thumbhole stocks.. or even like full pistol grips that are attached to the stock.. I assume that satisfies things on a import level? but maybe it is different when applying that same logic to NJ since they clearly state it as something beneath the action of the gun.. and even go as far as to describe the manor in which you can hold it..

 

as in maybe this is NOT a pistol grip

 

 

but maybe something like the PAP is (according to NJ at least)A pistol grip..