I'll start off with the disclaimer from the video I am going to link:

*WARNING AND DISCLAIMER: This video and the content it contains should not be considered a safe and reliable source of information. This video/DIY/drawing is for illustration and artistic purposes only, and I highly recommend you consult the above mentioned handbook for guidance. Enjoy this video, but please do not build this design or attempt to fire any of the projects shown in the US Dept. of the Army Improvised Munitions Handbook (TM 31-210). Building a weapon of any kind is extremely dangerous and may be unlawful where you reside. Do your own research, and place your safety and the safety of others above all else.*

 

Follow up by saying THIS IS NOT LEGAL TO DO IN NEW JERSEY!

 

Then continue with...This is freaking cool! This is the sort of thing that I like to show anti's because a lot of them do not understand that guns aren't some magical thing that you need precision machinery and a factory to produce.

 

http://vimeo.com/10857758

A zip gun...With extra firing pin springs..

 

wonder how much he paid for the chinese factory ?

All of the safety and legality issues notwithstanding, how amusing would it be to bring one of those to the trap range and shoot a straight 100?

 

ETA:

It would need a much longer barrel, though.

A zip gun...With extra firing pin springs..

 

wonder how much he paid for the chinese factory ?

 

 

what is a chinese factory

what is a chinese factory

 

chinese factorys make do with what they have, no safety equipment and usualy very cluttered I can picture these as zip guns instead of guitars....

 

Uh, unless he got a tax stamp for that project, it isn't legal anywhere in the USA.

Uh, unless he got a tax stamp for that project, it isn't legal anywhere in the USA.

ONLY because of the barrel length. If that barrel was 18" it would be 100% legal.

ETA: Anywhere BUT NJ that is..here that would qualify as "manufacturing"

make the barrel 18.5 inches, stamp that baby made in my basement with a serial # and out the door..

chinese factorys make do with what they have, no safety equipment and usualy very cluttered I can picture these as zip guns instead of guitars....

 

 

 

wow.. lol

ONLY because of the barrel length. If that barrel was 18" it would be 100% legal.

 

Yeah, hence the "unless he got a tax stamp" part of my post.

I was thinking that would be realy un safe to shoot then I saw the wood glue for the barrel than I felt better about the whole thing,, but he realy should have used nylon rope that would have been better.

 

OO BOY this is why they have laws

I was thinking that would be realy un safe to shoot then I saw the wood glue for the barrel than I felt better about the whole thing,, but he realy should have used nylon rope that would have been better.

 

OO BOY this is why they have laws

 

 

 

humm.. jb weld? I thought he was using something like gorilla glue...

 

To be effective, youd need like 10 of those on a 2x4.. too slow to reload..

Yeah, hence the "unless he got a tax stamp" part of my post.

 

And I Clarified WHY... Part of what we do here is to inform people who arent as conversant with the various Laws. Your post without saying WHY implied that the entire enterprise was Unlawful from the get-go everywhere, under all circumstances, when, tax stamp aside, it would ONLY be unlawful in those places that have a "Manufacturing" statute like NJ does.

I was thinking that would be realy un safe to shoot then I saw the wood glue for the barrel than I felt better about the whole thing,, but he realy should have used nylon rope that would have been better.

 

OO BOY this is why they have laws

 

 

Ted he did the construction word-for-word to the instructions given by the US Army Special Forces handbook for Improvised Weapons... I dont know if they still do it, but the Blanketheads USED to do all of that stuff as part of the Curriculum at the School. Again, aside from the short barrel, it was completely Legal to build. Now that aside, WHAT would be the purpose of building that firearm, and under what circumstances would you do so?? It's simple. Improvised munitions are designed to give you a couple of shots, to ambush, and take out a BETTER armed Enemy, and subsequently arm yourself with HIS weapons.

Ted he did the construction word-for-word to the instructions given by the US Army Special Forces handbook for Improvised Weapons... I dont know if they still do it, but the Blanketheads USED to do all of that stuff as part of the Curriculum at the School. Again, aside from the short barrel, it was completely Legal to build. Now that aside, WHAT would be the purpose of building that firearm, and under what circumstances would you do so?? It's simple. Improvised munitions are designed to give you a couple of shots, to ambush, and take out a BETTER armed Enemy, and subsequently arm yourself with HIS weapons.

 

 

I would rather use a sticky bomb... B)

Ted he did the construction word-for-word to the instructions given by the US Army Special Forces handbook for Improvised Weapons... I dont know if they still do it, but the Blanketheads USED to do all of that stuff as part of the Curriculum at the School. Again, aside from the short barrel, it was completely Legal to build. Now that aside, WHAT would be the purpose of building that firearm, and under what circumstances would you do so?? It's simple. Improvised munitions are designed to give you a couple of shots, to ambush, and take out a BETTER armed Enemy, and subsequently arm yourself with HIS weapons.

 

i think your looking to much into it, its not a manufacturing issue to me .

 

it looks like a bad mended fence to me I wouldnt shoot it and i have shot some scary things before.

i think your looking to much into it, its not a manufacturing issue to me .

 

it looks like a bad mended fence to me I wouldnt shoot it and i have shot some scary things before.

 

give it to junkmanted he will shoot anything...

And I Clarified WHY... Part of what we do here is to inform people who arent as conversant with the various Laws. Your post without saying WHY implied that the entire enterprise was Unlawful from the get-go everywhere, under all circumstances, when, tax stamp aside, it would ONLY be unlawful in those places that have a "Manufacturing" statute like NJ does.

 

No, my post does not imply the entire enterprise is illegal. It only states that the short barrel is what is illegal. I really don't care if people aren't conversant with basic federal firearms laws. If they are unaware that it is legal to make yourself a gun in most of the country, or that shotgun barrels under 18" need a tax stamp, then that's their problem. I'm not here to educate people or provide legal advice.

it looks like a bad mended fence to me I wouldnt shoot it and i have shot some scary things before.

 

That's fine. It's not for you to shoot. It's not for someone to make and take trap shooting or something. It's an improvised weapon taught in a US Army manual from 1969. Likely so if, say, a guy was stuck behind enemy lines, he could make an improvised weapon like that, and use it to kill a VC who will have an actual weapon and then use that.

Added a poll to see how many people on this site would actually shoot this thing.

i think your looking to much into it, its not a manufacturing issue to me .

 

it looks like a bad mended fence to me I wouldnt shoot it and i have shot some scary things before.

 

In this state you HAVE to look at it that way. Does it in fact fire Fixed Ammunition? then it's a firearm, and sadly, again HERE at least it would have the potential get you in a jam. Remember, that the whole idea of that isnt to be used regularly, it only has to work Once or twice to fulfil it's purpose, it's not a "Combat weapon" it's a Survival implement. Google some of the Phillipine homebrew guns...they make that particular example look like a Browning Cittori.

No, my post does not imply the entire enterprise is illegal. It only states that the short barrel is what is illegal. I really don't care if people aren't conversant with basic federal firearms laws. If they are unaware that it is legal to make yourself a gun in most of the country, or that shotgun barrels under 18" need a tax stamp, then that's their problem. I'm not here to educate people or provide legal advice.

 

 

I apologixe for not seeing the clarification on barrel length in your reply here.

Uh, unless he got a tax stamp for that project, it isn't legal anywhere in the USA.

 

Thank you for correcting me, As to the rest of your post, again, thank you for clarifying your attitude towards other shooters who may be in need.

I apologixe for not seeing the clarification on barrel length in your reply here.

 

 

Thank you for correcting me, As to the rest of your post, again, thank you for clarifying your attitude towards other shooters who may be in need.

 

I could just as easily say thanks to you for giving me attitude over something that I did not need to be given attitude over.