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SIG X5 226

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Anyone else own a sig x5? i baught mine 5 months ago for $1900 out the door a little pricy but there is only one company that makes a holster for it. I had to pay 100 and wait a few weeks you cant get the special base plate for the mags. when you use the standard mag it sometimes is hard to seat with the magwel. I baught it for the steel knockdown comps. since may i have sent it back to the factory because it was jamming and not locking back when the mag was empty. The said they had to polish the ranp. since then i havent had any jams but the slide still here and there dont lock back.

I don't own one, but there is a member here that does own a few. Your best bet may be to check out sig forum. There are lots of guys with a ton of sigs.

Not really visualising what the feed ramp has to do to do with slide lock back..... Its either the mags or the slide release or weak ammo/heavy spring.

Not really visualising what the feed ramp has to do to do with slide lock back..... Its either the mags or the slide release or weak ammo/heavy spring.

 

+1. Feed ramp smoothing will help feeding and extraction. Often times a slide not locking back is because the magazine springs aren't stiff enough. A cheap fix would be to go to Wolff springs (www.gunsprings.com) and buy some heavy duty magazine springs. They worked wonders on my Ruger PC-9 carbine. The other possible causes are what Shane mentioned. A stiff recoil spring requires stout enough ammo to send the slide all the way back. If you want to continue using the same ammo (and the new mag springs alone don't fix the issue entirely), you should try a lighter recoil spring too. While ordering new magazine springs, you should also order a reduced power recoil spring (all the springs together < $20) and give it a try.

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thx for the info I just feel after spending 1900 i shouldnt have to buy extra **** to make it work right.

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thx for the info I just feel after spending 1900 i shouldnt have to buy extra **** to make it work right.

 

I checked out that website they only sell P220 mag springs

Sig has a pretty good warranty dept, I would just call and see what they say.

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I agree with you about not having to spend any more. It sucks.

 

Here is a source for magazine springs.

http://www.topgunsupply.com/sig-sauer-magazine-spring-p226-x-five-9mm-.40sw.html

 

The www.gunsprings.com site does have the reduced power recoil springs.

 

i already sent it in to sig 2 months ago and they said they just polished the ramp and couldnt find anything else wrong. it an intermitten problem only happens here and there. i have tried different ammo same thing happens.

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the other website only has factory mag springs. I have # factory mags and it happens with all of them. maybe it is the recoil spring. will changing that affect the shooting of the gun? is the spring thats in there from the factory for competition? since thats why i paid so much for it?

dpas, I hear you. But if its a recoil spring issue, the range of ammo in use makes it kinda hard to cover all bases. Use a 10 lb spring and someone whit HOT ammo will be battering the frame. Use a heavier spring and someone using low power loads may not cycle the slide all the way causing issues. Run a race car and a little tailoring is usually in order :)

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thx for the info. I going to pick up the smith 627 vcomp i ordered today hopefully i wont have problems with that gun for 1600. seems like the more expensive the gun the more problems you have? I have a colt defender 45 it was 800 and its indestructable. ive dropped it banged it and never had a problem.

If your magazines are new, then the springs are not worn. I wasn't assuming that you bought a new gun.

 

Since this is a highly tuned competition pistol, does the user manual specify any particular ammo weights/brands/types? I know my Springfield 1911 in 9mm only digested 124grain and heavier ammo. It never ran correctly with 115 grain. If you don't have better luck after trying a range of ammo weights and types, I still think a lighter recoil spring is worth a try.

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If your magazines are new, then the springs are not worn. I wasn't assuming that you bought a new gun.

 

Since this is a highly tuned competition pistol, does the user manual specify any particular ammo weights/brands/types? I know my Springfield 1911 in 9mm only digested 124grain and heavier ammo. It never ran correctly with 115 grain. If you don't have better luck after trying a range of ammo weights and types, I still think a lighter recoil spring is worth a try.

 

yea i baught it new. i just ordered the spring ill try that for 23.00

yea i baught it new. i just ordered the spring ill try that for 23.00

 

Good luck man. Let us know how it works out. Out of curiosity, what ammo have you been using? Did you try a variety?

"seems like the more expensive the gun the more problems you have?" I dunno, one of the guys I compete with runs an X5. He is in excess of 20,000 rounds.....

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i have used Bitter root valley, brown bear, federal, winchester,speer I probally have put 1500 rounds through it.

i have used Bitter root valley, brown bear, federal, winchester,speer I probally have put 1500 rounds through it.

 

It sure looks like you covered your bases for ammo. The only other suggestion I might give is to make sure you run that gun wet. Tight tolerance guns get jammed up quickly. My Colt Gold Cup would start having cycling problems if I went through a few boxes of ammo without oiling the rails. Same thing with my HK P7M8. Unfortunately, Precision instrument = more maintenance = bigger pain in the a**.

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It sure looks like you covered your bases for ammo. The only other suggestion I might give is to make sure you run that gun wet. Tight tolerance guns get jammed up quickly. My Colt Gold Cup would start having cycling problems if I went through a few boxes of ammo without oiling the rails. Same thing with my HK P7M8. Unfortunately, Precision instrument = more maintenance = bigger pain in the a**.

 

whats a good spray lube you can keep in a range bag?

whats a good spray lube you can keep in a range bag?

 

 

I like Militec. I'm sure there are others that people would recommend. Mine comes in a bottle with a needle tip applicator. I just run some down the rails, the locking lugs, and the part of the barrel that comes in contact with the bushing.

Ive been an exclusive Militec user but...I just ordered a bottle of slip2000 to try.

Do you Militec users follow step 2: heating the metal to "set" the lube for maximal results? I have a little sample bottle of it but after reading that, its seems a little bit of a hassle to perform religiously. Does it make a real difference if you do it though?

No. I figure it will get hot enough on its own at the right time :icon_twisted:

 

Same here. Does that make me lazy? Never mind, I know the answer. :)

Same here. Does that make me lazy? Never mind, I know the answer. :)

I prefer 'opportunistic'. :icon_e_biggrin:

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Cheap solution... mayb. How are you gripping the gun? I just found out on my hk, that would the new grip, my thumb was riding the slide release button.

 

 

yea its not that they told me that when i called before i sent it in. hopefully them mag springs do the trick.

now that I am at a pc, can type.... easier than from a phone.

 

I had this happen last night to me. I am used to shooting a 1911, and shot it in a match on Saturday. On Sunday, went to shoot with a few forum guys and decided to shoot the Hk. All of the sudden, the slide would not lock back. Thought it was the ammo, then looked at my hand and saw it riding the slide release as it is soo close to the right thumb...

 

Hopefully they get it solved.

Maks, i recently observed the same thing with my new (to me) Makarov. I took it out for the first time a week or two back and it wasn't reliably locking back for me at all for the 100 rounds i put through it. Lunker was there too and i gave it to him to try out and the one mag he ran through it locked back just fine. The blowback mechanism is a bit stout in recoil so maybe i just need to man up a bit more with this thing and lock my wrists out harder although i've never had this issue on any other auto that i've owned, rented or borrowed, ever!

Maks, i recently observed the same thing with my new (to me) Makarov. I took it out for the first time a week or two back and it wasn't reliably locking back for me at all for the 100 rounds i put through it. Lunker was there too and i gave it to him to try out and the one mag he ran through it locked back just fine. The blowback mechanism is a bit stout in recoil so maybe i just need to man up a bit more with this thing and lock my wrists out harder although i've never had this issue on any other auto that i've owned, rented or borrowed, ever!

 

I'm a lefty pistol shooter, so take into account.

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