ok since I don't see the answer, i will ask if I am right. If you buy a pistol from a private person, face to face, in NJ.

you need:

Certificate of eligibility (2 copies)

Pistol permit

matching FID/DL

each party gets a COE copy and a copy of the pistol permit. the buyers local PD gets the third copy of the pistol permit.

am i correct?

no nics on a FTF?

 

I am asking because i won a g17 gen4 on GB from a local person and he is unsure of the process and Pistols are not specifically mentioned anywhere on the nj sp site with respect to ftf transactions.

IIRC that sounds correct.

ok since I don't see the answer, i will ask if I am right. If you buy a pistol from a private person, face to face, in NJ.

you need:

Certificate of eligibility (2 copies)

Pistol permit

matching FID/DL

each party gets a COE copy and a copy of the pistol permit. the buyers local PD gets the third copy of the pistol permit.

am i correct?

no nics on a FTF?

 

I am asking because i won a g17 gen4 on GB from a local person and he is unsure of the process and Pistols are not specifically mentioned anywhere on the nj sp site with respect to ftf transactions.

 

I think just :

 

Valid Purchase permit, FID, and DL....

ok since I don't see the answer, i will ask if I am right. If you buy a pistol from a private person, face to face, in NJ.

you need:

Certificate of eligibility (2 copies)

Pistol permit

matching FID/DL

each party gets a COE copy and a copy of the pistol permit. the buyers local PD gets the third copy of the pistol permit.

am i correct?

no nics on a FTF?

 

I am asking because i won a g17 gen4 on GB from a local person and he is unsure of the process and Pistols are not specifically mentioned anywhere on the nj sp site with respect to ftf transactions.

Pistol Purchase Permit, the seller should ask to see a matching driver license/FID, No COE needed for handgun, pink copy to buyer, send other copies to appropriate parties (noted on bottom of permit) I would ask to see the seller's permit and documentation as well.

I would ask to see the seller's permit and documentation as well.

 

The seller is not required to provide a Purchaser ID or Permit for the gun. He can be nice and show you, but he may have inherited the gun or moved from a different state with it. The buyer doesn't need a Firearms purchaser ID either, legally.

nowhere in the law states the DL and FID must match.

N.J.A.C. 13:54-1.8 Written certification; delivery of permit to purchase

( a ) Any person receiving, purchasing or otherwise acquiring a firearm by exhibiting a firearms

purchaser identification card shall sign a written certification on form NJSP 634, which shall indicate that he or she presently complies with all of the requirements for obtaining an identification card and does not suffer from any of the disabilities set forth in this subchapter. The certification shall contain his or her name, address and firearms purchaser identification number or dealer's license, and any other information deemed necessary by the Superintendent. If the seller is not a licensed dealer, the certification may be retained by the seller or it may be filed with the chief of police of the municipality in which he or she resides or, in all other cases, with the Superintendent. The seller shall retain the certification if he or she is a licensed dealer.

( b ) A permit to purchase a handgun shall be issued to the applicant in quadruplicate. Prior to receiving a handgun from the seller, the purchaser must deliver all copies of the permit to the seller, who shall complete all of the information on the required form. Within five days of the sale the seller shall forward the original copy to the Superintendent and the second copy to the chief of police of the municipality where the purchaser resides; provided that in a municipality having no chief of police, the second copy shall be forwarded to the Superintendent. The third copy shall be returned to the purchaser, and the fourth shall be kept by the seller as a permanent record.

even gun dealers don't have to check. they only have to fill out forms and do a NICS check.

N.J.A.C. 13:54-3.13 Requirements for sale of a handgun or frame

(a) Every purchaser, other than a licensed or registered retail or wholesale dealer or manufacturer, or law enforcement agency as provided in this chapter, shall present a valid permit to purchase a handgun to the dealer, who shall confirm the identity of the purchaser. A permit is valid for the purchase of one handgun or receiver. The dealer shall adhere to the following procedures:

1. Complete and keep a form of register, which is part of the permit to purchase a handgun (designated SP-671) for each handgun sold and obtain the information sought by the form of register and obtain the signature and address of the purchaser in the purchaser's own handwriting;

2. Complete in a legible manner the permit to purchase a handgun in the space provided on the form;

3. Deliver the handgun unloaded and securely wrapped;

4. Forward the permit to purchase a handgun and form of register copies to the respective individuals, as noted on the forms, within five days of the date of sale. If the issuing authority is the State Police, both the original and the second copy of the permit to purchase and the form of register are to be forwarded to the State Police;

5. Retain the form of register and make it available for inspection by any law enforcement officer at reasonable hours; and

6. In addition to complying with the other requirements of this chapter, the retail dealer shall, prior to completing the sale or transfer of a handgun or frame, initiate a NICS check with the Division of State Police as defined in 27 CFR 478.11, which is incorporated by reference herein, as may be amended and supplemented.

Pinned at the top of this forum section

nowhere in the law states the DL and FID must match.

 

 

 

except for this vague caveat

and any other information deemed necessary by the Superintendent.

In my opinion, if the " any other information deemed necessary by the superintendent" is not in writing, it doesn't exist.

Legally, Pistol Permits, and FID.... considering it asks for it on the pistol permit.

 

No COE is necessary.

 

Best practice... draft up a bill of sale and ask for a copy of drivers license.

 

Is it going beyond what is necessary.... yes... if the other person doesnt want to provide it... too bad.

You don't need a FPID to purchase a pistol.