Century Arms.... their quality really that bad??? my boss wants to get their "Century MILLED "Certified" AK47" in NJ configuration that based on polish M60, but it seems i cant find a good review about them or their guns... you guys have any intel on them?

Intel is avoid anything Century has had a hand in. I have always followed that advice from those that have been there done that so I have never owned a century piece...

This is the exception to the century sucks song. I have one at my FFL waiting for me

 

Reviews are out there, all are positive. Only 3 caveats: The lightening cut was done with an end mill rather than a high speed horizontal key cutter, it should be gloss blue instead of park, and it should have a type III nut instead of the slant brake. This is of course if you want authenticity.

 

 

BTW JG sales has em way cheaper, $589

This is the exception to the century sucks song. I have one at my FFL waiting for me

 

Reviews are out there, all are positive. Only 3 caveats: The lightening cut was done with an end mill rather than a high speed horizontal key cutter, it should be gloss blue instead of part, and it should have a type III nut instead of the slant brake. This is of course if you want authenticity.

 

 

BTW JG sales has em way cheaper, $589

 

reeeaally? thats pretty kool 8)

but can JG make it NJ compliant ?

 

PS let me know how it is when you pick it up PLS 8)

No, they wont. PK90 will though. Im doing mine through a FFL friend of mine (doesnt offer it as a service, sorry). All thats needed is a tack weld on the brake and the lug shaved.

My Enfield No 4 that I recently received is from Classic Arms but seems to have been originally sourced from Century. I was actually pretty impressed with the overall condition of the rifle (especially since they were sold out of "handpick" Enfields when I ordered). That being said, I've not yet shot it, but it seems in nice shape.

I think the Century issue was with parts guns that they built on domestic made recievers, not Bolt Action imports. I could be wrong.

The century bashing doesnt usually apply to surplus rifles since all they do is import them. The bashing is geared towards the century assembled rifles, some of the AK's, HK clones, ARs and whatnot. Often refered to as drunken monkeys with hammers and dremels

 

I think the Century issue was with parts guns that they built on domestic made recievers, not Bolt Action imports. I could be wrong.

 

 

Correct. IIRC Tim, you are one of the guys that got a good G3. For every good one there are three messes in circulation. Century's Galil clones where so bad that they stopped making them for years. Oddly enough I've never read anything bad about their old FALs.

 

On the other hand the early SAR series rifles were the only ones to be built on genuine AKM receivers. At the time these were the only military grade factory stamped aks on the market. But they could have their issues (less severe and easily corrected) as well.

but the SARs werent touched by century, just imported. WASRs have the magwell hacked open by century, but still isnt built by them. The polish milled AKs are "built" by them, along with the "galonis" and the HK93s and such

Yeah, I did luck out with a good G3. boght before I knew I should not have.

Yeah, I did luck out with a good G3. boght before I knew I should not have.

 

Yeah, that was a good gun, only had issues with bad mags.. I wonder how it's doing now...

so what is the final verdict? do we have a "GO" on the polish leadspitter?

Century has a bad reputation and most of it is unwarranted, internet hearsay bs.

 

First off, they do many things with guns so just because something is "Century" does not really mean anything. Some guns like the PSLs and Makarovs and surplus rifles, they simply import, neuter if needed and re-sell. Some rifles like the WASR are imported, they open the mag well and throw some US parts in, and re-sell. Other things like the Golani they built from parts kits with their own receivers and compliance parts and some of these are where the "shitty" rep comes from.

 

Second of all, they move a LOT of guns. A LOT. It's simple math, if you have a problem with 1 in 500 guns and you move 500 a day, versus a company like K-Var who may also have a 1 in 500 problem but only moves 50 a day, if that, then of course it looks like there is a quality problem to the untrained eye. There are far more Century guns out there, so of course there is the appearance of having more problems. Just like Toyota Camry is the most stolen car. There's just more of them than anything else, and statistics can be a pain.

 

Third, For all the talk of WASRS being garbage (which is where a lot of the anti-Century sentiment comes from) I am yet to see any fail. For all the talk of canted sights, and roughshod finish, I'm yet to see one rusted out or fail to fire. And not to be mean but all it takes to fix canted sights, at worst is a sledge hammer and a pin punch. Sometimes it is as simple as just using the sight tool to drift the post a few mm. The same people who call Century monkeys are often the same clowns who can't even swing a hammer themselves. I'm yet to see a civillian target shooter kill the WASR they love to talk so much **** about. Another big source of Century hate is their .223 AKs a while back, which they shipped with 5.45 magazines re-labeled as .223. Geometry is a **** and of course they jammed constantly due to the magazine. Also their Tantals were 5.45 shipped with .223 barrels. Inexcusable.

 

Century is far from perfect, but there's really nothing wrong with almost anything they put out. Some complaints are valid but most of the hate is unwarranted.

 

Sorry for writing you a novel but I hope the info is worthwhile.

I've had a Century WASR four about four years. Never had a problem or a jam. It's very solid and surprisingly accurate, even with the AK's long, gritty trigger pull and pistol-like sight radius.

Lots o' fun!

Tuk, It's a go. Get it! They are a good deal. You can find a few reviews online, all are good. The next cheapest milled reciever is alot of money more...

 

BTW, unlike the WASRS these are actually collectable. They only found 3k of these kits overseas.

Just a point of reference Century Arms imports more firearms items than any other importer in the US. This includes parts/accessories/ammunition.

 

Some times mishaps slip in. The poster above said it best when you manufacture 1,000,000 guns and have a 1% f***ed up gun rate that is 10,000 f***ed up guns. When you import 100,000 and have a 1% f***ed up rate that's only 1000.

 

 

I think most people fail to realize the pure volume century does.

had to skip this rifle and go for cheaper alternative .... hopefully they are still gonna b around in the spring.

 

PS got this instead

 

I.O. Inc

I want one !!!!!

 

now I have to sell some guns to pay for it !!

I want one !!!!!

 

now I have to sell some guns to pay for it !!

 

I see that you have done that rather quickly!

I see that you have done that rather quickly!

 

YA I hate selling any gun but when its to buy a new toy its all good .

I took that WASR out of the closet 3 times then put it back that was a tuff one now I'm down to 6 AK variant type guns LOL.

Got another one of those WASR 10/63 to get rid of? How about making your collection 5 AK variants? LOL

took a recount LOL

 

1 Russian - saiga,

1 pap - serbia

2 chinese - mac 90, hunter both norinco's

2 Romy's - rpk, psl

1 yugo - rpk

now a polish

 

that was the only low end AK I had and realy a great rifle

took a recount LOL

 

2 Russian - saiga, pap

2 chinese - mac 90, hunter both norinco's

2 Romy's - rpk, psl

1 yugo - rpk

now a polish

 

that was the only low end AK I had and realy a great rifle

 

i hope u re happy. i am crying over here. why wud u do this to us. this list is just killin me.

took a recount LOL

 

2 Russian - saiga, pap

2 chinese - mac 90, hunter both norinco's

2 Romy's - rpk, psl

1 yugo - rpk

now a polish

 

that was the only low end AK I had and realy a great rifle

 

 

that pap isnt russian, its yugo! Well, now its serbia.

took a recount LOL

 

2 Russian - saiga, pap

2 chinese - mac 90, hunter both norinco's

2 Romy's - rpk, psl

1 yugo - rpk

now a polish

 

that was the only low end AK I had and realy a great rifle

 

I just have one, Arsenal 74, a real beauty. I love it. Very well balance and looks awesome.

 

My next buy, a RPD. But, I have to wait until the end of next year b/c of money, unless someone buys my 1919 first.

that pap isnt russian, its yugo! Well, now its serbia.

 

i thought serbia was in russa ? i know its built the same as a yugo

O well who cares i fixed my post

i thought serbia was in russa ? i know its built the same as a yugo

O well who cares i fixed my post

 

HAHA. u re too funny

i thought serbia was in russa ? i know its built the same as a yugo

O well who cares i fixed my post

 

Serbia is part of the former yugoslovia, which is not even that terribly close to the modern russian federation. Yeah, im nitpicking

 

I wasnt kidding I dont care,,,, but nice work on the map