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Spetznaz vs Green Beret

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Good episode. I love that show.

Such patent nonsense, and so theatrical at that. These "comparisons" make absolutely no sense, but it beats Lifetime's programming, I suppose :)

 

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I've said it before, the thing that annoys me about some of the match-ups on Deadliest Warrior is that they don't make sense. The show improved this a bit more in season 2 when they introduced "intangibles" or whatever (basically the wildcard that would justify the computer's results, ha). Still, in the comparison of SF vs. Spetznaz, you have the tip of the spear vs. a sledge hammer. So, when you pit them in an arena-type setting, head-to-head, of course the Spetznaz will win (which I think they would definitively against any opposition). If the show were being realistic, one of the primary weapons of the SF wouldn't be their gears or firearms-- it would be the trust and response of local nations, and the other primary would be a SOFLAM and an AC-130 or other air support, ha. So, first it would rain hell, and then there would be a coordinated attack with local nationals being directed by the team. Then of course, the Spetznaz could counter by bombing a whole village of innocents, trying to root out any insurgency :facepalm:

I just watch it to see the weapons tests they run against the ballistic gel dummies and stuff. There are way to many variables to consider when trying to decide who would win one of these conflicts. I got a kick out of the Nazi vs. Viet Cong match-up though

I just watch it to see the weapons tests they run against the ballistic gel dummies and stuff.

This.

Yeah watching the weapons tests is the best part. Sometimes its stupid the weapons they end up with. The season two finale with the Navy Seals vs Israeli Commandos was the best IMO. :icon_e_smile:

if you watch the show with the expectation of being given a definitive result of an all out war between one and another prepare to be disappointed.. if you watch the show to see a hypothetical comparison of two reasonably armed combatants, in which weapons are demonstrated and tested.. then yeah its a pretty enjoyable show.. it is obviously impossible to factor in every conceivable variable.. they are just saying (in this case at least) that if a roaming squad on one side happen to run into a roaming squad of the other group.. and they battled.. this is how they think it would go.. it is obviously speculation..

 

the ONLY complaint I have is the lack of similar testing.. meaning if you are testing X weapon against X weapon (battle rifle for example) then the test should be exactly the same.. sometimes that is not practical because the weapons may function so differently.. but all in all if the weapons are similar they should be tested the same way..

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Yeah watching the weapons tests is the best part. Sometimes its stupid the weapons they end up with. The season two finale with the Navy Seals vs Israeli Commandos was the best IMO. :icon_e_smile:

 

Link? Would love to see what the Mossad had....

 

Jericho's?

 

the ONLY complaint I have is the lack of similar testing.. meaning if you are testing X weapon against X weapon (battle rifle for example) then the test should be exactly the same.. sometimes that is not practical because the weapons may function so differently.. but all in all if the weapons are similar they should be tested the same way..

This. I never understood why they varied the tests. They test the rifle from Team A against how it performs in piercing the armor of Team B, but Team B tests their rifle in how it does damage to the carcass of a pig. WTF there is absolutely NO WAY you can compare the results of piercing armor vs. how it destroys a pig.

I understand the novelty of it, I mean, it is on Spike. The match-ups of more ancient tech-based warriors actually makes sense and I find far more fascinating (war was actually civilized then-- which is ironic since they're all seen as savages :facepalm:).

I think if they wanted to do a totally-random-lets-see-stuff-blow-up show, then just make a show that highlights firearms and other tech (like "Future Weapons"). Otherwise, if you're going to do it, do it right, no? My favorite episode involving modern stuff had to be CIA vs. KGB, as it went a bit beyond just generic-firearm vs. generic-firearm, and really delved into some history.

Ha, wow, speaking of "Future Weapons," I just checked out the Deadliest Warrior site, and guess who is joining the cast? Yes, our favorite dramatic whisperer, Mack of Future Weapons (http://www.spike.com/blog/season-3-is-go/98880)... apparently season 3's production just began, and, in other news, Deadliest Warrior is also being made into a feature-length film (http://www.spike.com/blog/deadliest-warrior-is/99844)?

 

For Maks, full episode of SEALs vs. IDF commandos: http://www.spike.com/full-episode/navy-seal-vs-israeli/39412

Yeah the outcomes are ridiculous. Their "Scientific method" is laughable.

 

I've only seen one episode, but that was enough to know that I didn't care for it either...

Okay...now I've seen two episodes...my opinion remains intact...

I don't even know where to begin with this one...

Optically sighted AR vs. iron sighted Galil(I guess we don't know that they were using optical sights long before we thought they were reliable enough for combat use, Israel isn't using M4s too, right?)...

The SEALs carrying small Cold Steel folder(really?) vs. the Israeli KaBar...

Extremely limited in the selection of explosives...

Umm...yeah...

Respectfully,

Harry

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The SEALs would have done a lot better if they could have called GOD to open up with his fifty...Then again The Israeli's mighta brought the Zohan to even things up, so who's to really say :p ...

Okay...now I've seen two episodes...my opinion remains intact...

I don't even know where to begin with this one...

Optically sighted AR vs. iron sighted Galil(I guess we don't know that they were using optical sights long before we thought they were reliable enough for combat use, Israel isn't using M4s too, right?)...

The SEALs carrying small Cold Steel folder(really?) vs. the Israeli KaBar...

Extremely limited in the selection of explosives...

Umm...yeah...

Respectfully,

Harry

PS

The SEALs would have done a lot better if they could have called GOD to open up with his fifty...Then again The Israeli's mighta brought the Zohan to even things up, so who's to really say :p ...

 

 

continue to pick it apart and continue to be disappointed..

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lol. It is a bit of a joke, but it is entertaining.

 

Israeli forces use...

 

Handguns - Jericho 941, Glock 19's.

Rifles - Galils, M4's, and now mostly transitioned to Tavor's. ( I reallllly want one).

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