i need to adjust the stock on my m&p 22 anyone know what tool to use to pull the pin out and repin it?

take it to a gunsmith. when that pin is out, and that stock is adjustable... you are breaking the law... if you have someone living in PA... you can modify there.

i will do it myself i just need to know how

i will do it myself i just need to know how

 

If you take the stock off the rifle you could argue the legality of it, Just take it apart, and see how it was done. Its just a pin going through a hole drilled in the guide rail.

As a disclaimer i'm going to say take it off the gun first.

 

Paterson Gunsmithing does it for 45 bucks.

Since it's illegal, i don't think anyone on here is going to give you an DIY on how to do it.

 

Jack. thanks. =) Especially on a PUBLIC board.

i doubt anyone is going to stalk me at my house to see if i do it

Haven't you heard of the stock and pin stalker ? :ph34r:

 

he has been seen in two states, NJ, CA...and a few democratic rally's..

lol not until today

i doubt anyone is going to stalk me at my house to see if i do it

 

LOL like maybe the multiple cops that browse this board regularly?

 

Internet forums are not private....by any means. The owner of the site gets subpoenaed - or just willingly cooperates since they're not about to risk their income for dpas1973 - guess who's posts get read out loud in court.

 

Not to mention in public forum sections, it's PUBLIC and so none of the above is needed to be held against you.

 

May as well go change your stock in Times Square now.

 

Seriously dude, just go to a gunsmith.

To iterate with what has been said, this is a public area-- the internet as a whole being a public area. The question is innocent enough, but the willingness to go forth with the venture after the warning is what is troublesome.

What a person opts to do behind closed doors is their own business; but possibly inflicting damage on the greater whole knowingly is not tolerable. Let's be a bit more aware of said surroundings.

i doubt anyone is going to stalk me at my house to see if i do it

 

I can promise you, while the forum is not "huge", we are the largest firearms online community in NJ, and the NJSP regularly reads the forum.

Assuming you break the gun down prior to modifying the LOP I would not think you could have any legal issues.. the reason being it is illogical to assume that you may be persecuted during the process of working on a gun... I changed the stock on my Saiga.. for that minute and a half that the old stock was off the gun the gun was technically too short per NJ law regarding minimum length for a rifle... I didn't load it like that.. I didn't shoot it like that... I didn't take it to the gun range like that.. I did it in my home.. because.. as far as I know it is still legal to work on your own firearm..

 

With all that nonsense out of the way all I can tell you is this.. with my DPMS rifle I replaced the stock with a Magpul one.. once the old adjustable was off the gun I decided to bump it down to the shortest LOP and pin it so my girlfriend could use the stock if she so desired in the future.. for me all it took was a simple push on the pins with a punch.. once they were out I adjusted the LOP and then replaced the pins.. I chose to epoxy over them for a more "permanent" pinning since the factory NJ compliant pinning seemed weak at best...

 

there are tons of people in NJ who don't like you owning guns.. a large amount of them would like nothing more than to lock you up for every goofy law in the book.. but as far as I am aware it is still legal to work on your own gun here so I would not stress over it..

for the hell of it.. I just called NJSP firearms unit and gave them a "hypothetical" and they said there is no issues.. they stated that while it is possible that the ATF might happen to kick in your door at the exact right moment and that might put you in a problematic situation.. concern over anything stemming from repining a rifle stock is pretty unreasonable..

 

the most important things touched on were the following..

 

when the job is done the pinning has to be "permanent"

and it has to meat the minimum length as per law

 

worrying about a problem like that during the actual process of working on the gun is not reasonable.. just break it down and make sure it is unloaded.. pulling the stock and buffer tube off of the gun would IMO be more than enough to keep you clear..

for the hell of it.. I just called NJSP firearms unit and gave them a "hypothetical" and they said there is no issues.. they stated that while it is possible that the ATF might happen to kick in your door at the exact right moment and that might put you in a problematic situation.. concern over anything stemming from repining a rifle stock is pretty unreasonable..

 

the most important things touched on were the following..

 

when the job is done the pinning has to be "permanent"

and it has to meat the minimum length as per law

 

worrying about a problem like that during the actual process of working on the gun is not reasonable.. just break it down and make sure it is unloaded.. pulling the stock and buffer tube off of the gun would IMO be more than enough to keep you clear..

I don't think the ATF has had a dog in the fight concerning collapsible or telescoping stocks since the AWB sunset.

I don't think the ATF has had a dog in the fight concerning collapsible or telescoping stocks since the AWB sunset.

 

I am just quoting what NJSP stated to me.. lol and I think he was "just saying"

I am just quoting what NJSP stated to me.. lol and I think he was "just saying"

 

despite what some folks on here think, neither I, or any of the other cops who post here give a rat's a** if you work on your rifles at home, so long as it's compliant when we "Have" to notice it.

despite what some folks on here think, neither I, or any of the other cops who post here give a rat's a** if you work on your rifles at home, so long as it's compliant when we "Have" to notice it.

 

that was.. without question.. the exact point he was making!

despite what some folks on here think, neither I, or any of the other cops who post here give a rat's a** if you work on your rifles at home, so long as it's compliant when we "Have" to notice it.

 

Sorry if you think I called you out personally or anything. But how can I verify the veracity of the bold part of your claim? Anyone with an e-mail address can get an account here, and anyone with $5/month can view any section of the forum. Sure some of you guys may not care, but who knows "who else" is on here just lurking, whether it be a cop or a criminal or an anti-gun blogger posing as BubbaDixie61 trolling for stupid quotes. I know the ADL was trolling popular gun boards a while back looking for quotes from some of the duller crayons in the box.

 

Just giving you an idea of where I'm comin' from. I treat the internet like I would the real world, and if I wouldn't say/do it on Main Street I wouldn't do it on the internet either.

 

Well, except for porn. I totally wouldn't watch that on Main Street

The concern stems from the area of the unreasonable. Listening to how many people have been arrested for paintball guns locked in the trunk but no pistol permit would lead one to believe there is a preponderance of unreasonable floating around here in NJ! Also as we have already learned, the SP DOF can NOT give legal advice.

The concern stems from the area of the unreasonable. Listening to how many people have been arrested for paintball guns locked in the trunk but no pistol permit would lead one to believe there is a preponderance of unreasonable floating around here in NJ! Also as we have already learned, the SP DOF can NOT give legal advice.

 

 

the reason this nonsense continues to occur is people simply don't fight back.. they are satisfied enough to be freed, or have charges dropped.. police do a tough job.. but they need to be held accountable just like anyone else.. if I make a mistake at work.. it is MY a**.. if a cop unlawfully detained me over a paintball gun you can bet your life I would break out the piggy bank and be in touch with an attorney.. I don't like to make waves.. or cause trouble.. but I don't like being messed with for no reason either..

i luck out, we got a house in the poconos (anyone ski?)

 

even tho, i would NEVER do anything illegal, BIG BROTHA is ALWAYS watching!

i luck out, we got a house in the poconos (anyone ski?)

 

even tho, i would NEVER do anything illegal, BIG BROTHA is ALWAYS watching!

 

 

just got my season passes for shawnee... we frequent that area pretty often..

the reason this nonsense continues to occur is people simply don't fight back.. they are satisfied enough to be freed, or have charges dropped.. police do a tough job.. but they need to be held accountable just like anyone else.. if I make a mistake at work.. it is MY a**.. if a cop unlawfully detained me over a paintball gun you can bet your life I would break out the piggy bank and be in touch with an attorney.. I don't like to make waves.. or cause trouble.. but I don't like being messed with for no reason either..

People stop fighting back because they run out of money. I agree everyone should vigorously defend them self when falsely charged, but the prosecutors will run you, an "evil gun owner", out of money and they know it. If your choice is take a plea or sell your house and be right (maybe) most people cave in.

We need more financial support from the NRA and other groups for people who get unjustly snagged in the NJ wheels (meat grinder) of justice.