Today I finally made it to Range 14 to take the rifles out. Long story short, I was having issues with the PAP chambering. It mostly happened when I was chambering the initial round from the magazine, but I had probably two or three incidents where it would fail to chamber in the middle of the mag. In every incident the round would jam halfway in the chamber, I would have to release the mag, and rack the bolt. Sometimes that would chamber the round, and other times the round would fall out through the mag well. When I got home, I took a little off the feed ramp, and smoothed it out...gave the gun a nice cleaning and oiling in hopes that this would solve the problems. It didnt. Shaved more off the feed ramp, same problem. Upon further observation, I come to find that the bottom of the bolt is not grabbing the back of the round. I am now going to attempt to dremel out some of the inside-top of the mag to allow the round to sit a little higher, and possibly try to modify the magazine catch to push the back of the mag up a little higher.

 

I was wondering if ANYONE had any other recommendations, or had ever experienced this.

See the link. Another member had this on theirs. Some of the PAPs have rought feed ramps. The solution is basically to sandpaper the lip of the ramp so it is smooth. The pics do a good job describing it.

 

http://robenglish.co...p_Mod/index.htm

I already took a little off the feed ramp, and smoothed it out. That is not the issue. The problem is the bottom of the bolt face does not grab the back of the round to push it into the chamber. I am working on dremeling out the magazine to allow the round to sit higher in the magazine, and hopefully high enough for the bolt to grab. Im sure you already read this though, as I PMed that in my response to you

Today I finally made it to Range 14 to take the rifles out. Long story short, I was having issues with the PAP chambering. It mostly happened when I was chambering the initial round from the magazine, but I had probably two or three incidents where it would fail to chamber in the middle of the mag. In every incident the round would jam halfway in the chamber, I would have to release the mag, and rack the bolt. Sometimes that would chamber the round, and other times the round would fall out through the mag well. When I got home, I took a little off the feed ramp, and smoothed it out...gave the gun a nice cleaning and oiling in hopes that this would solve the problems. It didnt. Shaved more off the feed ramp, same problem. Upon further observation, I come to find that the bottom of the bolt is not grabbing the back of the round. I am now going to attempt to dremel out some of the inside-top of the mag to allow the round to sit a little higher, and possibly try to modify the magazine catch to push the back of the mag up a little higher.

 

I was wondering if ANYONE had any other recommendations, or had ever experienced this.

 

I had the same problem with a double stack WASR 10. Push up on the mag by the mag catch while shooting and see if it goes away. If so, build up the part of the mag by the mag catch. It's possible the mag catch may be short. I heard of someone replacing the mag catch to fix it because the catch was too short. My single stack WASR does not have this problem.

Thank you sir, I will indeed keep that option in mind.

if the bolt isnt pushing the round then the mag needs to move up, 1st is the mag tight, are you using a PAP mag, and have you tried other mags if yes then pull the top cover and b&c turn the gun upside down take a flat punch and a hammer place the punch where the mag sits and give it a good hit then see how it feeds some times the receivers get a bulge when bent at the factory you may need to do it a couple times.

jamb a small screw driver in the mag catch to keep it open and take the fire control group out of the gun to test feed if you are using live ammo.

 

been there a couple times

I had issues with the plastic mag that came with the rifle, but was using the metal Romanian mags....they seemed to work better until I went to the range yesterday. There does not appear to be a bulge in the mag well, and there is even still a little bit of play with the mag catch and the tab on the mag. I think I will do a combination of dremeling out the inside of the magazine to allow the round to sit higher, and building up the tab a little with JB weld to push the mag up.

i had the same problem on one of my wasr's it was the mag not tight into the reciever. i simply replaced the entire mag catch assembly with new and it works awesome now. i thought about welding a spot to either the bottom of mags or top of catch but replacing was the CORRECT fix.

 

now i have another wasr with the opposite problem the mag seats nicely and drop free just fine, but once i fire the gun i need to use a screw driver on the mag release to have it drop free. it doesn't need a lot of pressure but more then you can do with you finger.

I will keep that in mind as well. Thanks for the input!