Found this with Google tonight. Boy, how things have changed.

 

Friday, Jun. 21, 1968

Nation: NEW JERSEY'S MODEL GUN LAW

 

A TOUGH, comprehensive gun-control law enacted in New Jersey 22 months ago might well serve as a model for federal action. Chapter 151 of the Revised New Jersey Statutes requires that all owners or would-be owners of firearms have an identification card, involving fingerprinting and a character investigation. A criminal record, narcotics addiction, alcoholism, mental illness or a physical handicap that would impair proficiency with a gun are all grounds for withholding the card. The police may also reject "any person where the issuance would not be in the interest of the public health, safety or welfare"—a catchall designed to keep weapons from going to individuals with long records of disorderly-conduct arrests but no convictions. Rejection on such grounds can be challenged in a county court.

 

Owners of rifles and shotguns must be 18, and need only the basic I.D. Those who would pack a pistol or revolver must also be at least 18, and need two additional permits (total cost: $5) to purchase and carry a handgun. Retailers must keep complete records of long-arm sales and must forward records of handgun sales to police.

 

Of 89,500 requests for firearm permits under the law, 1,600 have been denied. A number of the refusals are being appealed. In addition, the state supreme court is hearing two challenges to the law's constitutionality. In one, the Monmouth County chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union is contesting a provision that makes membership in a "subversive" organization grounds for denying an I.D. card or a purchase permit. In the other, the law is being questioned on the grounds that it abridges the right to bear arms and interferes with interstate commerce.

 

Find this article at:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,900179,00.html

Who ever heard of the ACLU defending gun rights?

 

They defend every other right, real or imaginary, but never seem interested in protecting a right explicitly stated in the constitution.

Who ever heard of the ACLU defending gun rights?

 

They defend every other right, real or imaginary, but never seem interested in protecting a right explicitly stated in the constitution.

I thought that was interesting too. Guess a lot has changed in 42 years.

I thought that was interesting too. Guess a lot has changed in 42 years.

Yea, unfortunately not for the better

Who ever heard of the ACLU defending gun rights?

 

They defend every other right, real or imaginary, but never seem interested in protecting a right explicitly stated in the constitution.

they weren't protecting gun rights, they were PROTESTING the wording of the law..which ulitmately they lost. Up until sometime in the late 90's IIRC there was a specific question on the Permit form asking if yiou were a menber of any group that pledged to over throw the US govt, or something to that effect...it was changed when Lautenberg went into effect and was replaced with the question about Protection orders.

And yet no mention at all of the vaguaries of the laws and how municipalities are the front line of delaying beyond a 30 day mandate.

Up until sometime in the late 90's IIRC there was a specific question on the Permit form asking if yiou were a menber of any group that pledged to over throw the US govt, or something to that effect...it was changed when Lautenberg went into effect and was replaced with the question about Protection orders.

 

 

 

KPD - do you mean question #9 on the current CoE form??

 

Are you presently, or have you ever been a member of any organization which advocates or approves the commission of acts of violence, either to overthrow the government of the United States or of this State, or to deny others of their rights under the Constitution of either the United States or the State of New Jersey?

 

 

 

or question #28 on the "Application for Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and/or Handgun Purchase Permit" form?

 

Are you presently, or have you ever been a member of any organization which advocates or approves the commission of acts of force and violence, either

to overthrow the Government of the United States or of this State, or which seeks to deny others their rights under the Constitution of either the United States or

the State of New Jersey? If yes, list name and address of organization(s).

 

I find the underlined portion ironic. I believe all state employees should have to answer YES...

 

And before anyone jumps on me - I'm joking.

Well, I can certainly see why the ACLU would be against it. The ACLU was started by communists and still is run today by communists and no, I'm not joking.

they weren't protecting gun rights, they were PROTESTING the wording of the law..which ulitmately they lost. Up until sometime in the late 90's IIRC there was a specific question on the Permit form asking if yiou were a menber of any group that pledged to over throw the US govt, or something to that effect...it was changed when Lautenberg went into effect and was replaced with the question about Protection orders.

 

If I remember correctly, they also had a question on the app. about what your intended purpose for owning a firearm was. Like someone would actualy put down "To rob banks".

Who ever heard of the ACLU defending gun rights?

 

They defend every other right, real or imaginary, but never seem interested in protecting a right explicitly stated in the constitution.

It was the 60's and all their Hippy Lawyers were dropping acid. They wre not in their right mnd.

If I remember correctly, they also had a question on the app. about what your intended purpose for owning a firearm was. Like someone would actualy put down "To rob banks".

No, but there were some chiefs who would downcheck an app for anything other than "Target Shooting", and Self-Defense was an automatic denial. None of MY Chiefs did this when the question was on there, but i do know of somw who did. In those towns the guy who handled the applications usually did his best to steer the applicant away from that answer without blatantly telling him or her what to put.

No, but there were some chiefs who would downcheck an app for anything other than "Target Shooting", and Self-Defense was an automatic denial. None of MY Chiefs did this when the question was on there, but i do know of somw who did. In those towns the guy who handled the applications usually did his best to steer the applicant away from that answer without blatantly telling him or her what to put.

I remember people (not gov workers) telling me to make sure to write "Target Shooting" on the app when I first put in for my FID for that very reason.

I remember people (not gov workers) telling me to make sure to write "Target Shooting" on the app when I first put in for my FID for that very reason.

 

That is still told to people to this day, regardless of Heller or McDonald.