Hi all,

 

I'm new to the forum and looking to buy my first AR-15. I'd like to get a Colt 6700c, but I'm not sure if they're legal in New Jersey because of the compensator.

 

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but compensators act as a muzzle brake AND flash suppressor, right? Flash suppressors are illegal in New Jersey, right? Thanks to anybody that can shed some light on this for me.

 

- Leon

You are fine. The Compensator/Muzzle Brake are not the same as a flash hider. There is an "evil features" list somewhere on this site (probably in a few places), but it boils down to you not being able to have more than 1 of these on any semi-automatic rifle that accepts detachable magazines:

 

grenade launcher

Pistol grip

Folding or telescoping stock

bayonet lug

threaded barrel

flash hider/suppressor

 

Since all ARs (except those weird California thumbole hybrids /fixed mags) have a pistol grip, you are out of luck for all the other features.

You are fine. The Compensator/Muzzle Brake are not the same as a flash hider. There is an "evil features" list somewhere on this site (probably in a few places), but it boils down to you not being able to have more than 1 of these on any semi-automatic rifle that accepts detachable magazines:

 

grenade launcher

Pistol grip

Folding or telescoping stock

bayonet lug

threaded barrel

flash hider/suppressor

 

Since all ARs (except those weird California thumbole hybrids /fixed mags) have a pistol grip, you are out of luck for all the other features.

 

Thanks for the explanation! I appreciate it.

As a matter of fact, all the Colt Match Target models (as opposed to their police models) are New Jersey legal.

http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_ag1.html

Just remember, that compensator/brake, needs to be pinned and welded.

I have a colt match target 6400c and I like it. PM me if you want to gtg and you could see/ shoot it. I'm only 10 minutes from Dix.

since they are saying the colt match target isnt substantially identical, couldnt you just use it as shipped from the factory? not worrying about evil features and all. not that i would chance it, but they arent actually clear and an argument could be made either way

Just remember, that compensator/brake, needs to be pinned and welded.

 

Thanks for all the replies. Can someone clarify what it means for the compensator to be "pinned and welded?"

You are fine. The Compensator/Muzzle Brake are not the same as a flash hider. Yeah you need an official ruling to tell the difference There is an "evil features" list somewhere on this site (probably in a few places), but it boils down to you not being able to have more than 1 of these on any semi-automatic rifle that accepts detachable magazines:

 

grenade launcher

Pistol grip

Folding or telescoping stock

bayonet lug

threaded barrel

flash hider/suppressor

 

Since all ARs (except those weird California thumbole hybrids /fixed mags) have a pistol grip, you are out of luck for all the other features.

Thanks for all the replies. Can someone clarify what it means for the compensator to be "pinned and welded?"

 

Basically, you can't have exposed threads on the barrel of an autoloading rifle unless it's your only "evil feature". In order to negate this illegal situation, you need to have a compensator permanently attached. This is done by welding and pinning it to the barrel. It is not a concern when buying a semi-auto rifle with a factory installed compensator unless the compensator can be taken off leaving a threaded barrel (almost never the case).

Basically, you can't have exposed threads on the barrel of an autoloading rifle unless it's your only "evil feature". In order to negate this illegal situation, you need to have a compensator permanently attached. This is done by welding and pinning it to the barrel. It is not a concern when buying a semi-auto rifle with a factory installed compensator unless the compensator can be taken off leaving a threaded barrel (almost never the case).

 

Thanks again lunker. So can anyone confirm if the Colt 6700c is one of those rare cases where the compensator is detachable or is it permanently fixed to the barrel straight from the factory?

Here's NJSP's take on the colt match target. :

http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_ag1.html

Thanks again lunker. So can anyone confirm if the Colt 6700c is one of those rare cases where the compensator is detachable or is it permanently fixed to the barrel straight from the factory?

 

 

All Colt Match Target rifles are NJ-legal right out of the box.

All Colt Match Target rifles are NJ-legal right out of the box.

 

Thanks again everyone for all your help (especially lunker)!

As long as they do not specifically have AR-15 stamped on the receiver all civilan type sporter rifes are legal provided that they do not have a flash hider, folding stock, threaded barrel, bayonet lug, attached bi-pod The Bushmasters, DPMS, and Colts in this form are all legal.

The requirement has resulted in some rifes being shipped with Muzzle brakes. The problem is that on some Colt rifes the pin used to retain the muzzle brake sometimes shears and the brake flys off. This can be fixed by installing a new retaining pin and using some JB Weld expoxy to hold the brake in place.

As long as they do not specifically have AR-15 stamped on the receiver all civilan type sporter rifes are legal provided that they do not have a flash hider, folding stock, threaded barrel, bayonet lug, attached bi-pod The Bushmasters, DPMS, and Colts in this form are all legal.

 

bipod is not an "evil feature" as defined by NJ law..

 

The requirement has resulted in some rifes being shipped with Muzzle brakes. The problem is that on some Colt rifes the pin used to retain the muzzle brake sometimes shears and the brake flys off. This can be fixed by installing a new retaining pin and using some JB Weld expoxy to hold the brake in place.

 

if the barrel is threaded.. and there is a brake attached.. it is my understanding that NJ follows the ATF guidelines for permanently attached.. meaning it is "Permanent methods of attachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100°F) silver soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over."

As long as they do not specifically have AR-15 stamped on the receiver

 

 

Since Colt AR15 HBAR's are exempted, by name, does it matter if they have AR15 on the receiver, or other evil features?

There is nothing in the law saying that AR-15, CAR-15, AK-47, or AK-74 stamped on the receiver is illegal. If the firearm is on "the list", it must be modified to the NJAG Guideline.