For anybody who is a member of Harborsite Usana I got some bad news. As of Dec 24 at noon Usana is closing their doors and will not reopen due to lawsuits

any details on exactly what lawsuits are being brought against them?

just curious as to why

any details on exactly what lawsuits are being brought against them?

just curious as to why

 

 

Letter on the website. Seems pretty serious.

 

Website with letter link

Letter on the website. Seems pretty serious.

 

Website with letter link

 

Sounds more like the neighbours complaining and maybe some zoning & building issues not resolved. Ya gotta grease the local pols, y'know.

Also likely they are seeing the writing on the wall, that in these times of lean LE budgets, and drying up of GWOT funds, there will be less opportunity in the training services area. So best to cut the losses, and rather than engage in a long costly fight with the locals for whatever reason, just to not have many paying customers (not talking about Joe shooter, its the training stuff that brings in the $$)

one of the owners was telling me earlier this year that some people from the city moved in up the road and started complaining about noise. So the club hired someone to measure decibels at the range and in the surrounding area and the decibel level was way under the noise pollution level. So the range changed their hours from an 8:00 am start to 9 am start to shut people up but apparently it didnt work. Guess i'll be looking for a new home now.

one of the owners was telling me earlier this year that some people from the city moved in up the road and started complaining about noise. So the club hired someone to measure decibels at the range and in the surrounding area and the decibel level was way under the noise pollution level. So the range changed their hours from an 8:00 am start to 9 am start to shut people up but apparently it didnt work. Guess i'll be looking for a new home now.

 

That was happening to Raceway Park in Englishtown. The lovely people from New York and north Jersey moved near there and got annoyed by the noise and the traffic. They tried to get it shut down. Raceway Park was opened in 1965. I just can't grasp the concept of voluntarily moving next to something and then trying to get it closed down.

 

What sucks is that a lot of times the people don't even have to get you closed down. They just make sure you get swamped with legal problems and fees so it's easier for you to close then to fight it.

 

I hate people

That was happening to Raceway Park in Englishtown. The lovely people from New York and north Jersey moved near there and got annoyed by the noise and the traffic. They tried to get it shut down. Raceway Park was opened in 1965. I just can't grasp the concept of voluntarily moving next to something and then trying to get it closed down.

 

What sucks is that a lot of times the people don't even have to get you closed down. They just make sure you get swamped with legal problems and fees so it's easier for you to close then to fight it.

 

I hate people

 

Thats because these A HOLES found a cheep home with out doing research

This is f'ing bullsh!t. I say we mount a class action lawsuit against them for denying our pursuit of happyness!!!! Maybe it should be reclassified as a chuch, the church of steel!

I was just informed that the old owner might be taking back over at the end of the month. If any body has ever gone to Valley Forge gun show youve seen him there. Hes the guy in the corner with the top hat on.

I go there and also have friends that live relatively close to the range and what they have told me was , it wasnt so bad when it was a normal shooting range but when they started training para military and LEOs there the rapid fire noise started to get out of control , ashame i really liked going there ....South Jersey Shooting Club here i come .....

 

 

I hate people

 

 

+1

humn, did not know that Top Hat owned USANA.

 

So is USANA a non-profit member club or is it a business? Seems like that may be making it worse.

Wonder if i can get some money back, since I just signed up there October 30..

Don't wait for a refund, bug the crap out of them early and often. I've seen these things happen before, the first few get something, the patient and the nice get hosed.

That was happening to Raceway Park in Englishtown. The lovely people from New York and north Jersey moved near there and got annoyed by the noise and the traffic. They tried to get it shut down. Raceway Park was opened in 1965. I just can't grasp the concept of voluntarily moving next to something and then trying to get it closed down.

 

What sucks is that a lot of times the people don't even have to get you closed down. They just make sure you get swamped with legal problems and fees so it's easier for you to close then to fight it.

 

I hate people

 

You can thank the local politicians and building contractors for clearing all the wooded area and putting up mega town homes in the area. I used to go to Raceway Park in the 70"s and I can't believe how they destroyed the area. People are going to move in if you provide a place to move into.

 

I live in north jersey and they're doing the same up here. Clearing woods out and building condo's and shopping malls. It pretty much sucks. I'm not sure what you consider "north jersey" but we don't like it either.

I was talking to some older family members earlier tonight and they told me when Skip Myers (top hat) ran USANA it was nonprofit, the members owned the place but since Harborsite bought it out they have been running it like a business to turn a profit and I guess it was not zoned for that. Supposedly there is some kind of clause in the paperwork that states if they cant make the mortgage or go out of business then Skip gets the place back. Just hearsay but well see. Just sucks I live one mile from here and might have to drive 30 mins to get to the next closest range.

So I am assuming top hat owns the land, and is leasing it to Usana?

 

we will see.

 

losers are the shooters there. hopefully this gets resolved.

That was happening to Raceway Park in Englishtown. The lovely people from New York and north Jersey moved near there and got annoyed by the noise and the traffic. They tried to get it shut down. Raceway Park was opened in 1965. I just can't grasp the concept of voluntarily moving next to something and then trying to get it closed down.

 

What sucks is that a lot of times the people don't even have to get you closed down. They just make sure you get swamped with legal problems and fees so it's easier for you to close then to fight it.

 

I hate people

 

 

They do the same thing with airports. Move in, find out there is an airport, that has been there for 50 years, and they want to shut it down.

 

People suck!

They f'd up, you cannot put stuff up without going to zoning and the planning board.. It is a real pain in the azz..and expensive..