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.308 semi auto sub-MOA

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Okay since I had nothing better to do I started thinking of a SASS type weapon. I have a few 5.56 set-ups that were lost in a freak storm in a boating mishap. I also have a Remmy 700 bolt, but was thinking a .308 AR type platform. I am hoping to take a sniper course in about a years time for my birthday, (just for fun)shooting 800+ yards. I was looking at all the major players: LMT MWS, Knights SR-25 EW, Larue OBR, and LWRC REPR. After reading a lot about them I can not find anything to support the price of the SR-25 over the others (more then 1K)and I think I want to stick to a DI system, thus leaving the REPR out. I am leaning towards the Larue, as the LMT website does not say they offer a 20" barrel standard. They do sell a 20" replacement, so they may also sell it configured that way but will have to call them. Does anyone here have any experience with any of these platforms? Right now just in the planning stage, but like to do a lot of research before I buy.

How about a POF piston driven AR10 platform? I have one in 223 and I love it compared to the DI AR15 or AR10's I have owned. Just throwing it out there for you. If you stick with the DI system, I agree that the SR25 is not worth the extra money.

 

Here is a link for the POF AR10...

 

http://www.pof-usa.com/p308/P308-20-11H-C3.htm

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How about a POF piston driven AR10 platform? I have one in 223 and I love it compared to the DI AR15 or AR10's I have owned. Just throwing it out there for you. If you stick with the DI system, I agree that the SR25 is not worth the extra money.

 

Here is a link for the POF AR10...

 

http://www.pof-usa.com/p308/P308-20-11H-C3.htm

 

Hey Bullzeye, thought about the POF but I really want to stick with a DI gun. So far I am really leaning towards the Larue, just looking for anyone who has experience with any of them. How accurate is your POF, I was looking at a 5.56 piston awhile ago, and the were my choice. They have some nice coatings on them. They were actually very nice when it came to NJ and neutering, but the wait was over 6 months back then...

The POF 223 I own is a sub MOA rifle all day. If I do my part and conditions are favorable, I can print 1/2 MOA groups. Its heavier then a DI rifle and recoils differently. I know any 223 doesnt have much recoil but this is more of a push so followup shots are tracked easier. My friend who uses his in competition (and used to only have DI Ar15's) has put it through some torture tests. He has not cleaned it in about 2000 rounds and no malfunctions of any kind.

 

Larue makes a great rifle. Look at Noveske too. I have had only JP uppers and they make an excellent product as well but they may be a little too race gun for you. JP rifles released their 308 and it looks awesome.

 

Hey Bullzeye, thought about the POF but I really want to stick with a DI gun. So far I am really leaning towards the Larue, just looking for anyone who has experience with any of them. How accurate is your POF, I was looking at a 5.56 piston awhile ago, and the were my choice. They have some nice coatings on them. They were actually very nice when it came to NJ and neutering, but the wait was over 6 months back then...

The repr has issues IMO... Most of the POF's I have read reports on have been accurate with a few issued guns but I HATE the rail system on that rifle. Each has some + and -. The OBR's are very accurate rifles. But I dont care for their rail system. Its a minor issue that seems to be solved with a PRS stock or their "fix" they offer to OBR owners. I went the LMT route because the KAC was just too much coin and I like the idea of easily switched calibers/barrels. If I had the coin though, it would be my pick. I would recomend you research your barrel length a bit more too. I went 16 because I want a dual role rifle. But I see no need to go over 18"(in a .308). You also should consider Noveske or a Custom build by GAP or APA since you are in custom territory $$$ wise. With all this said, you need to understand that if you are just starting out in precision long range shooting, you are handicapping yourself by starting out with a gas gun. They ARE harder to shoot in this discipline. A bolt rifle is more forgiving to input errors. Also I would avoid any class calling its self a sniper class. If your not a slotted sniper and the class is accepting you, well it may be an indication of marketing instead of substance.

Heres a 5 shot 100yd group from a OBR. I never even handled the rifle before I sat down and cranked off this .346 moa group.

 

 

 

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I never made an effort to shoot my DPMS on paper.. but decided to for the first time a couple months back.. this was the result..

 

Here are the two groups I shot... better of the two was second..

 

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both shot a little low but I think that is just scope adjustment.. really happy with how the gun shot.. 5 shot groups.. slow from the bench..

 

This is the rifle..

 

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Heres a 5 shot 100yd group from a OBR. I never even handled the rifle before I sat down and cranked off this .346 moa group.

 

 

Shane nice group, what type of ammo were you using? I have read nothing of good things on the OBR and if I can find away, saving pennies I think I will go this route with a nice piece of glass. Maybe a Night Force 3.5x15. But of course I would check with you first as I respect your input and that glass is expensive.

 

 

I never made an effort to shoot my DPMS on paper.. but decided to for the first time a couple months back.. this was the result..

 

Here are the two groups I shot... better of the two was second..

 

 

both shot a little low but I think that is just scope adjustment.. really happy with how the gun shot.. 5 shot groups.. slow from the bench..

 

This is the rifle..

 

 

Vald, excellent groups especially since you haven't done that with that rifle before. Were you using a bi-pod and bag or just the pod?

 

We should definitely get a group shoot going somewhere.

Vald, excellent groups especially since you haven't done that with that rifle before. Were you using a bi-pod and bag or just the pod?

 

We should definitely get a group shoot going somewhere.

 

 

just the bipod... as I was saying in another thread.. this deep in winter I don't shoot much because I spend most of my off time riding (snowboarding).. I might be up for a Wednesday shoot during the day if there was a spot.. the range I belong to is a weekend only gig..

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just the bipod... as I was saying in another thread.. this deep in winter I don't shoot much because I spend most of my off time riding (snowboarding).. I might be up for a Wednesday shoot during the day if there was a spot.. the range I belong to is a weekend only gig..

 

I belong to CJ, but work during the week. I shoot mainly on Saturday mornings if you don't ride one of theses weeks. We can reach out to 300.

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