Just wanted to see if anyone has any first hand feedback on any of Sig's advanced courses. I am trying to put together my training calendar for 2011 and am looking for challenging courses. Ideally, the course will be physical, mental and of course challenging on the shooting skills. I'd prefer something within about 500 miles of NJ. For these types of classes, I'd really prefer not to check in 2,000 rounds of ammo, a quiver of weapons and all maintenance support stuff with an airline.

 

I typically take two or three courses a year to get in between 50 -100 hours of training. I'm not interested in any of the stuff in Nevada. I've had plenty of instructors who have taught or shot out there and to me, and from what I have gathered, it isn't worth the hype.

Troy did a very very nice review of his time up there last year... I'll see if I can find the thread.

 

EDIT: Here it is:

 

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/16234-sigsauer-academy-trip/page__p__214041__fromsearch__1#entry214041

I have taken 2 Sig courses at Bullet Hole, and was so impressed, I went up to the Academy for a full day course.

 

I loved it. The instructors are top notch. It was an awesome experience.

 

I will be going back this year.

 

Frangible ammo ONLY at the Academy. They sell it there, it is expensive, but this year I will bring my own.

 

There are 2 nice hotels 5-10min away. Around $90/night with Sig discount.

 

Thanks j0n!

Troy, what do they consider frangible? Some consider OTM to be acceptable. I'll have to check. For their week long courses, the ammo costs might make it a no-go for me.

IDK what caliber you're looking for but CTD still has 9mm frangible ammo for $11.19/box. Troy and I went in on a case earlier this year.

I am trying to help the President of this group to bring the REACT course here to the east coast. This is more along the lines of what I am hoping for. Not just shooting skills, but genuine combat ops type of stuff. The future is going to pose some challenges for me and I need to knock off some rust and get back into the proper mind-set and physical shape. Hence my resuming KM training...knees and arthritis be damned.

 

Archangel Group

IDK what caliber you're looking for but CTD still has 9mm frangible ammo for $11.19/box. Troy and I went in on a case earlier this year.

 

Well, it really doesn't matter I guess. I've always been a 45 guy, but recently bought a Sig 40 for a detail coming up in India and I bought a Glock 9mm off the Marketplace that I have to pickup once I clear my 30 days for a second purchase. I thought CTD stopped selling pistol ammo to NJ...or was it SG? I've kind of boycotted both companies over the last couple of years.

Well, it really doesn't matter I guess. I've always been a 45 guy, but recently bought a Sig 40 for a detail coming up in India and I bought a Glock 9mm off the Marketplace that I have to pickup once I clear my 30 days for a second purchase. I thought CTD stopped selling pistol ammo to NJ...or was it SG? I've kind of boycotted both companies over the last couple of years.

 

:shrug: I just got a shipment of ammo from CTD a week or two ago. Never had any issues with them.

I am guessing you guys picked up the HTM stuff. The price isn't that bad for 40/9, but it gets ugly when you hit 223/308.

I am guessing you guys picked up the HTM stuff. The price isn't that bad for 40/9, but it gets ugly when you hit 223/308.

 

BVAC.

okay who is ctd? and who is sg?

Thanks again for the info. I am leanings towards two of their courses but need to contact them about their schedules. The Dynamic Shooter AID2 and the Counter Terrorism Tactics 1st Responder. The High Risk Tactical Responder is also an option. Hey, who knows, if I can't Archangel over here, I might take all three. I'd love to be able to get all three in before May / June.

okay who is ctd? and who is sg?

 

CTD = Cheaperthandirt. I'm not sure what SG is.

okay who is ctd? and who is sg?

 

Cheaper Than Dirt and Sportsman's Guide, yo!

CTD = Cheaperthandirt. I'm not sure what SG is.

 

SG=Sportsmans Guide

 

I received an ammo order last week from SG - so they still ship ammo to NJ.

I received an order last week from CTD - but it did not include ammo.

 

I want to know what KM training is - and I googled it, somehow I don't think Wojo needs Knowledge Management training.

SG=Sportsmans Guide

 

I received an ammo order last week from SG - so they still ship ammo to NJ.

I received an order last week from CTD - but it did not include ammo.

 

I want to know what KM training is - and I googled it, somehow I don't think Wojo needs Knowledge Management training.

 

My wife would disagree with the Knowledge Mgmt aspect. Krav Maga

KM - NJ

 

I'm glad CTD is still shipping to NJ, must been a wrong connection on my end. I reload so much I forget who sells pre-rolled at decent prices. Perhaps it was a temporary thing with SG because IIRC our AG had spooked them about selling pistol ammo in our state. They might have lawyer'ed up and pissed on the AG about it.

CTD still ships ammo to NJ, just got some last week.

Just wanted to see if anyone has any first hand feedback on any of Sig's advanced courses. I am trying to put together my training calendar for 2011 and am looking for challenging courses. Ideally, the course will be physical, mental and of course challenging on the shooting skills. I'd prefer something within about 500 miles of NJ. For these types of classes, I'd really prefer not to check in 2,000 rounds of ammo, a quiver of weapons and all maintenance support stuff with an airline.

 

I typically take two or three courses a year to get in between 50 -100 hours of training. I'm not interested in any of the stuff in Nevada. I've had plenty of instructors who have taught or shot out there and to me, and from what I have gathered, it isn't worth the hype.

After Iggys use of a certain video as a marketing tool, rather than a training iad, i wouldnt give him money for ANYTHING. See if you can PM Rscalzo Wojo..he lives just down the road from SiG and he raves about the place.

I am trying to help the President of this group to bring the REACT course here to the east coast. This is more along the lines of what I am hoping for. Not just shooting skills, but genuine combat ops type of stuff. The future is going to pose some challenges for me and I need to knock off some rust and get back into the proper mind-set and physical shape. Hence my resuming KM training...knees and arthritis be damned.

 

Archangel Group

 

Guiduk's people, right??? John's good people.

Wojo - not sure what your time line for training is, but MDTS will be holding 3 classes this year at Buckeye in Barnegat.

 

4/30 Combative Pistol Skills 1+2 Buckeye Gun Club Barnegat, NJ 9am-5pm

6/25 Combative Shotgun Skills 1+2 Buckeye Gun Club Barnegat, NJ 9am-5pm

8/27 Combative Carbine Skills 1+2 Buckeye Gun Club Barnegat, NJ 9am-5pm

 

Rich Verdi, who I believe works with/for Sig, does classes in PA: http://siginst.wordpress.com/ He is also a member here and pops in from time to time. Don't have any personal experience with him, but have heard and read good things. http://pistol-training.com/archives/4067

Caine, I've trained with Chris before and even took a course at Buckeye about two years ago. Great guy all around.

I posted in the events section a thread about a sig academy road trip. Not sure when I'd be able to go because I just spent money on car repairs, but it's definitely something I'd like to do.

Guiduk's people, right??? John's good people.

 

Yes John. He is now on our Expert Council and he is assisting me in some work overseas. The more I talk to him, the more I like him.

Yes John. He is now on our Expert Council and he is assisting me in some work overseas. The more I talk to him, the more I like him.

 

The book should be REQUIRED reading.

Wojo have you looked into SouthNarc? ECQC, AMIS, and all of his other classes gets rave reviews.

 

http://www.shivworks.com/

Wojo have you looked into SouthNarc? ECQC, AMIS, and all of his other classes gets rave reviews.

 

http://www.shivworks.com/

 

Scott, I am going to +1 the suggestion for ECQC from Southnarc. About 40% live fire, 60% very physical force on force.

The ECQC sounds pretty inviting. Thanks for the lead Tosser and Joel. The photo files seem like it would be very easy to transition from KM to their system. I love neck grabs and elbow collisions. Cheek bones and noses don't stand a chance when done correctly and it is so hard to defend against when performed quickly. Even if Ball Cap guy tries to block it, you are going to set him off his mark as you damage his forearm. Good stuff.

 

It doesn't seem to be a lot of dates on the 2011 calendar however. The one in LI in early June could be possible. But doing the LI thing in the summer with traffic is just a turn-off. I need to find out where. If it is too far out, the lodging could be pricey or impossible if too close to a beachie area. Maybe they do in in Valley Stream or Hempstead and we get to have a practical exam in some hostile areas.

 

Hey Joel - how's that FJ doing? Get any deep mud on it yet?

I have been having a good time with the FJ. Just did a small lift and a little bigger tires (33.5").

 

On Southnarc's discussion board Total Protection Interactive he is also listing ECQC in Culpeper VA November 11-13, and I think I am going to take it again then, as I like Culpeper, and it is only about a 4 hour drive for me.

I attended it in 2007 in NH. I plan on returning again shortly. I also have a NH -CCW.

 

Yes, it was VERY EXCELLENT. But try to learn as much as possible while there.

 

Was invited by a Director of Sig for a 3+ hour long personal one-on-one tour, with pics of their manufacturing process and R&D room that I was allowed to take. They are gracious and good folks -who feel sorry for us here in NJ -btw. (I Had to toss that in.... )