http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20110308.aspx

 

March 8, 2011: India's Border Security Force is replacing 34,500 MP5 9mm machine pistols with the Beretta Mx4 9mm Storm Carbine. The Mx4 is a militarized version of the Cx4, which weighs 2.57 kg (5.75 pounds), unloaded. The Cx4 can use pistol magazines, or its own 20 round magazine. The Cx4 is 75.4cm (29.7 inches) long, with a 42cm (16.6 inch) barrel. There is a rail on the top of the Cx4 for mounting scopes (day or night vision), laser aiming device or flashlight. There is another rail underneath, forward of the trigger, for mounting a grip, laser or flashlight. The MP5s weight about the same, but have a shorter barrel. The Mx4, with a scope, is pretty accurate out to a hundred meters, and automatic fire is accurate out to 200 meters. The Cx4 has a reputation, among the many police and security personnel who use it, of reliability and ease of use and handling.

is pretty accurate out to a hundred meters, and automatic fire is accurate out to 200 meters.

 

Shorter barrel, less velocity then a Cx4.

 

100 meters I'll buy no problem. Automatic fire out to 200meters, not so much, unless they are counting spray and pray accuracy.

here's a pic

Now if only they'd make those guns available to us...

Man, I really love my Cx4. But that SBR is HOT!

Now if only they'd make those guns available to us...

 

My thoughts exactly. I'll take the MP% for whats its designed to do, if I need to shoot 200 meters I will get an M16

My thoughts exactly. I'll take the MP% for whats its designed to do, if I need to shoot 200 meters I will get an M16

 

we have a winner....................

What you need to understand is that these weapons arent being retired because the system was lacking. The MP5's are a great system. Unfortunatly they are simply unsustainable. The lack of parts out of HK has made these systems crazy expensive to keep in inventory

Yeah I saw this on the Beretta forum. Apparently there's going to be higher capacity mags as well - like 30 rounds or something. Not confirmed yet though.

What you need to understand is that these weapons arent being retired because the system was lacking. The MP5's are a great system. Unfortunatly they are simply unsustainable. The lack of parts out of HK has made these systems crazy expensive to keep in inventory

 

This. When H&K came out with the UMP they decided to make replacement parts for the MP5 next-to-extinct.

I'll take one or two MP5's off their hands....

After watching Terror in Mumbai on HBO, I'm surprised they actually have 34K weapons in India.

Dont have HBO. Didnt see it. Whats 34k?

Dont have HBO. Didnt see it. Whats 34k?

I'm guessing that meant 34 *thousand* weapons. Not sure if thats for the LE/MIL only or for the civvy populous, but supposing the latter, that's 1 gun per every 29,411 people (assuming pop of 1 BIL). According the the NRA, this starkly contrasts to the US figures of 42% of households having 1 or more guns, or the use a similar statistic to the India figure, almost 1 gun per household. Like the Japanese said in WWII, "Behind every blade of grass...".

 

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?ID=83