I haven't seen this mentioned, so I thought I'd bring it up. I'm surprised nobody has pointed this out before, though I have to admit I didn't catch it the first time.

 

From the State of New Jersey Application for Firearms Purchaser Identification Card and/or Handgun Purchase Permit

 

Question 28:

Are you presently, or have you ever been a member of any organization which advocates or approves the commission of acts of force and violence, either to overthrow the Government of the United States or of this State, or which seeks to deny others their rights under the Constitution of either the United States or the State of New Jersey? [emphasis added]

 

Uh, you mean like you guys are? You know, that pesky 2nd amendment. I doubt the people who created this form even realized the irony.

+1, good call sir.

I've always had trouble answering no to that question, I was once registered as a Democrat.

I've always had trouble answering no to that question, I was once registered as a Democrat.

 

Sorry...wrong section to go political...

Was this whole FPID thing put in place before they started brady checks?

Seems like redundancy.

Whats next a permit to apply for a permit?

How funny would it be if a pro-gun NJ judge (which is about as realistic as Santa Claus) denied a NJ police officer a gun permit. After all...

Damn, best post in a while Jeff. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

Was this whole FPID thing put in place before they started brady checks?

Seems like redundancy.

Whats next a permit to apply for a permit?

They were started in 1966 I believe, and yes it's now obsolete.

Sorry...wrong section to go political...

It was a joke!

It was a joke!

 

Sorry, halb, I wasn't referring to your post. I had written a response, but took it out, because it was the wrong section.

Assemblyman Carrol regularly submits bills to skip the permit and go to NICS. Generally doesn't go anywhere; but I wonder if he could get it a little further in today's budgetary economy.

Assemblyman Carrol regularly submits bills to skip the permit and go to NICS. Generally doesn't go anywhere; but I wonder if he could get it a little further in today's budgetary economy.

Well, that's how we need to sell it to the public. Do you think your town is making money on the $2 per permit they get? The $18 MO goes to the NJSP. This obsolete redundant unnecessary system is costing tax payers a lot of money, money that could be better spent preventing crime or providing emergency services rather than rechecking that someone hasn't committed a crime in the last 3 months since their last round of permits, that is what NICS is for.

Well, that's how we need to sell it to the public. Do you think your town is making money on the $2 per permit they get? The $18 MO goes to the NJSP. This obsolete redundant unnecessary system is costing tax payers a lot of money, money that could be better spent preventing crime or providing emergency services rather than rechecking that someone hasn't committed a crime in the last 3 months since their last round of permits, that is what NICS is for.

NJ lawmakers don't care about spending taxpayers money or preventing crime. We have some of the the strictest gun laws in the nation and we also have Camden, one of the biggest toilet bowls.

I'm.choking .......on the irony

I've noticed that every time I read it and it always made me scratch my head for a second for the same reasons you pointed out.

I guess this means every state gov't employee has to answer 'yes' to this question.