I don’t normally watch Obama speak. His smugness and condescending attitude usually make my skin crawl, but admittedly, he can turn a phrase. Anyone who can turn “war” into “kinetic military action” and convince people that they’re 2 different things has a wealth of linguistic and persuasive skills.

 

Last night, the phrase to watch was “forge a coalition”. I like that. It implies rolling your sleeves up and actively seeking out and bringing together a disparate and discordant group and ending up with a cohesive whole that’s stronger than the sum of its parts.

 

We should do that.

 

Let’s figure out how.

 

 

Was he speaking? I thought he was reading aloud!

I think a first step is to raise the awareness of NJ gun owners (dwindling as they may be) who don't care about the AWB or standard-cap magazine ban or OGAM or no-issue CCW (as long as nobody takes away their shotgun/hunting bolt-action) that loss of ANY firearms rights brings them one step closer to losing the rights they choose exercise.

Was he speaking? I thought he was reading aloud!

 

Agreed. He isn't as eloquent when he has to do an impromptu speech and he can't rely on his army of writers. He could give James Earl Jones a run for his money doing audio books. Can you imagine The Bible being narrated by Obama.

I don’t normally watch Obama speak. His smugness and condescending attitude usually make my skin crawl, but admittedly, he can turn a phrase. Anyone who can turn “war” into “kinetic military action” and convince people that they’re 2 different things has a wealth of linguistic and persuasive skills.

 

Last night, the phrase to watch was “forge a coalition”. I like that. It implies rolling your sleeves up and actively seeking out and bringing together a disparate and discordant group and ending up with a cohesive whole that’s stronger than the sum of its parts.

 

We should do that.

 

Let’s figure out how.

 

I like that.

 

Let's run with it.

 

I would like to carry my chemically powered kinetic safety device on my person.

Can you imagine The Bible being narrated by Obama.

 

He'd probably burst into flames...

Oh. I missed the point.

 

How about "self-preparing plumbum accelerating device"?

 

Maybe that's stretching it a little.

I think a first step is to raise the awareness of NJ gun owners (dwindling as they may be) who don't care about the AWB or standard-cap magazine ban or OGAM or no-issue CCW (as long as nobody takes away their shotgun/hunting bolt-action) that loss of ANY firearms rights brings them one step closer to losing the rights they choose exercise.

Agreed, but I do not think all of them do not care, just do not understand how rediculous the laws are. They need someone who can identify with them.

 

I am willing to bet that a lot of hunters have an older Marlin Model 60 in their closet and do not realize it is an Assault Weapon banned because the little 22 holds 17 rounds in the tube. There are other examples with 22's and shotguns a like.

 

These are the people that we need to get on board.( Now I AM NOT PICKING ON ANYONE HERE, just stating what perception can do. So no one get their panties in a bunch) But they are not going to identify with The Tactical Mall Ninja who learned about guns while playing video games and builds EBR's to resemble them. They will run as fast as they can from being lumped in with that group. Right or wrong it is reality. It is because of them ( and the media's assault on cosmetic features ) the Politicians want to take away their guns. If it was not for that group of people no one would hassle the hunters. ETC... You know where I am going with this.

 

You need hunters who can identify with them and talk to them and explain why the rights need to be restored. Using examples like the Marlin, or the gun their Dad brought home from WWII is illegal in the state. It needs to be made personal.

Another issue is personal fear. Fear of reprisals at work, fear of being shunned by "polite society", and fear of being suspected of being one bad experience away from a paranoid breakdown.

 

A while back, I started a thread about an experience at the Post Office. It may bear rereading.

 

Old Post Office thread

 

I don't know how we can move the public's impression of the shooting community out of shadows and away from the fringe, but I do know that until we do, we won't be able to make any progress here at all. It's very frustrating.

 

I don't know how we can move the public's impression of the shooting community out of shadows and away from the fringe, but I do know that until we do, we won't be able to make any progress here at all. It's very frustrating.

The same way it was moved into the shadows and things have been changed for years. Children ....There needs to be a comprehensive outreach to children. It can bring fence sitting parents over if their kids are interested and the Kid grows up and brings their children into it. The only way to change a society peacefully is to encourage the one thing that creates future society. Children

The same way it was moved into the shadows and things have been changed for years. Children ....There needs to be a comprehensive outreach to children. It can bring fence sitting parents over if their kids are interested and the Kid grows up and brings their children into it. The only way to change a society peacefully is to encourage the one thing that creates future society. Children

As much as I enjoy seeing kids at the range, I don't know if we can undo the indoctrination they're exposed to every day. Maybe a few of them, but what about the thousands who are shown that guns are bad and people who use/sell/have/shoot guns are bad.

 

Remember this?

 

Gun dealer sponsorship rejected

I agree it is an uphill battle, but incrementalism is how we got here. It is how we are going to get out. I do not think there is going to be one magic ruling that will free us from the unjust laws of the State. I have had to deprogram my kids a few times after coming home from school. Once was my son repeating the talking points from an animal cruelty/anti hunting presentation he had in school. All while eating pheasant that we shot the weekend before.

 

Now if you take just this one part of it and couple it with assaults on other fronts towards freedom, we may get somewhere. I think this is where NJ groups have/are failing. Getting to wrapped up in the legalese part and not helping to teach or recruit. Parents will do a lot to support their kids. Not all, but some, and some is better than none.