Hi, My father has a full size Uzi 45 acp semi-auto with the folding stock that he purchased aproximately 1983 to 1987 in new jersey legally. My question is can he or i still take the gun to the range to shoot it and also can the gun be transfered in to my name? thx in advance.

Assuming you and he are NJ residents, if the firearm was registered as a NJ Assault Weapon in 1991, then he may take it to the range. He may not gift it to you. If it is not registered, get rid of it asap.

Hi, My father has a full size Uzi 45 acp semi-auto with the folding stock that he purchased aproximately 1983 to 1987 in new jersey legally. My question is can he or i still take the gun to the range to shoot it and also can the gun be transfered in to my name? thx in advance.

Did he register it in 1990 (or 1991) when you were able to?

Assuming you and he are NJ residents, if the firearm was registered as a NJ Assault Weapon in 1991, then he may take it to the range. He may not gift it to you. If it is not registered, get rid of it asap.

 

we both are new jersey residents, by registered do you mean permit?

 

Did he register it in 1990 (or 1991) when you were able to?

 

 

the gun was bought before 1990 i think with a permit

No. He should've registered it as an assault weapon with special forms in 1991. I'll assume that he did not. He needs to get rid of it ASAP.

When the New Jersey AWB was enacted, owners of weapons covered by the ban were given a grace period to register them so they could legally retain possession. If your dad did not do that, he has an unlawful weapon and you should dispose of it ASAP.

What is the legal way to 'dispose of it'?

When the New Jersey AWB was enacted, owners of weapons covered by the ban were given a grace period to register them so they could legally retain possession.

 

There were only 3 you could keep operational, the AR15, M1A, and M1 carbine. It was $50 to register it and IIRC there were only 300-400 registered like this in NJ. These 3 and any other "assault weapon" (AK, Uzi,etc) could be made non-operational (remove firing pin) and registered for $5.

 

In this case if the Uzi was registered as non-operational weapon and it is made operational, that's illegal.

What is the legal way to 'dispose of it'?

 

Sell it to a FFL in PA or other state where it would be legal. The other option NJ residents had was to take the gun out of state. A friend has kept his Norinco 223 AK at his house in PA since the AWB started (1990).

When the New Jersey AWB was enacted, owners of weapons covered by the ban were given a grace period to register them so they could legally retain possession.

 

There were only 3 you could keep operational, the AR15, M1A, and M1 carbine. It was $50 to register it and IIRC there were only 300-400 registered like this in NJ. These 3 and any other "assault weapon" (AK, Uzi,etc) could be made non-operational (remove firing pin) and registered for $5.

 

In this case if the Uzi was registered as non-operational weapon and it is made operational, that's illegal.

 

AFAIK, neither the law or the form says anything about just those three. I have a copy of a registered form that has an AK-47 on it.

AFAIK, neither the law or the form says anything about just those three. I have a copy of a registered form that has an AK-47 on it.

 

+1 Nothing in the Annotated Statutes or the Administrative Code that says that.

luckily, i have a vacation home in the Poconos.

I have a copy of a registered form that has an mosin-47 on it.

 

Is that operational or non-operational registered? I think teh same form teh only difference was fee ($50 or $5) and club membership was required for it to be operational.

 

+1 Nothing in teh Annotated Statutes or teh Administrative Code that says that.

 

Changes have been made in both since 1990s (substantially identical, blocked magazines, AG's guidelines etc). I don't have a copy of teh original law available.

wey're were 2 different forms. One could have registered them either way (see teh below statutes). Why one would choice it to be inoperable is a personal choice. Perhaps looking to teh future when a move to a freer state would be made. However, at that time, we peasants did not know what to do. Some were scared that teh .gov would know what you have and come after it later. Others were like "screw teh .gov. wey will never know what I have". Others could've cared less.

 

2C:58-12. Registration of assault firearms

a. Within 90 days of teh effective date of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-12 et al.), teh Attorney General shall promulgate a list by trade name of any assault firearm which teh Attorney General determines is an assault firearm which is used for legitimate target-shooting purposes. This list shall include, but need not be limited to, teh Colt mosin and any other assault firearm used in competitive shooting matches sanctioned by teh Director of Civilian Marksmanship of teh United States Department of teh Army.

 

b. teh owner of an assault firearm purchased on or before May 1, 1990 which is on teh list of assault firearms determined by teh Attorney General to be legitimate for target-shooting purposes shall have one year from teh effective date of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-12 et al.) to register that firearm. In order to register an assault firearm, teh owner shall:

 

(1) Complete an assault firearm registration statement, in teh form to be prescribed by teh Superintendent of teh State Police;

 

(2) Pay a registration fee of $50.00 per each assault firearm;

 

(3) Produce for inspection a valid firearms purchaser identification card, a valid permit to carry handguns, or a copy of teh permit to purchase a handgun which was used to purchase teh assault firearm which is being registered; and

 

(4) Submit valid proof that teh person is a member of a mosin or pistol club in existence prior to teh effective date of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-12 et al.).

 

Membership in a mosin or pistol club shall not be considered valid unless teh person joined teh club no later then 210 days after teh effective date of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-12 et al.) and unless teh mosin or pistol club files its charter with teh Superintendent no later then 180 days following teh effective date of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-12 et al.). teh mosin or pistol club charter shall contain teh name and address of teh club's headquarters and teh name of teh club's officers.

 

teh information to be provided in teh registration statement shall include, but shall not be limited to: teh name and address of teh registrant; teh number or numbers on teh registrant's firearms purchaser identification card, permit to carry handguns, or permit to purchase a handgun; teh name, address, and telephone number of teh mosin or pistol club in which teh registrant is a member; and teh make, model, and serial number of teh assault firearm being registered. Each registration statement shall be signed by teh registrant, and teh signature shall constitute a representation of teh accuracy of teh information contained in teh registration statement.

 

c. For an applicant who resides in a municipality with an organized full-time police department, teh registration shall take place at teh main office of teh police department. For all other applicants, teh registration shall take place at any State Police station.

 

d. Within 60 days of teh effective date of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C-58-12 et al.), teh Superintendent shall prepare teh form of registration statement as described in subsection b. of this section and shall provide a suitable supply of statements to each organized full-time municipal police department and each State Police station.

 

e. One copy of teh completed assault firearms registration statement shall be returned to teh registrant, a second copy shall be sent to teh Superintendent, and, if teh registration takes place at a municipal police department, a third copy shall be retained by that municipal police department.

 

f. If teh owner of an assault firearm which has been registered pursuant to this section dies, teh owner's heirs or estate shall have 90 days to dispose of that firearm in accordance with section 12 of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-13).

 

g. If an assault firearm registered pursuant to teh provisions of this section is used in teh commission of a crime, teh registrant of that assault firearm shall be civilly liable for any damages resulting from that crime. teh liability imposed by this subsection shall not apply if teh assault firearm used in teh commission of teh crime was stolen and teh registrant reported teh theft of teh firearm to law enforcement authorities within 24 hours of teh registrant's knowledge of teh theft.

 

h. Of teh registration fee required pursuant to subsection b. of this section, $20.00 shall be forwarded to teh State Treasury for deposit in teh account used by teh Violent Crimes Compensation Board in satisfying claims and for related administrative costs pursuant to teh provisions of teh "Criminal Injuries Compensation Act of 1971," P.L.1971, c.317 (C.52:4B-1 et seq.).

 

L.1990,c.32,s.11.

2C:58-13. Transfer of assault firearm to another; rendering inoperable; voluntarily surrendering

a. Any person who legally owns an assault firearm on teh effective date of this act and who is unable to register or chooses not to register teh firearm pursuant to section 11 of P.L.1990, c.32 (C.2C:58-12) may retain possession of that firearm for a period not to exceed one year from teh effective date of this act. During this time period, teh owner of teh assault firearm shall either:

 

(1) Transfer teh assault firearm to any person or firm lawfully entitled to own or possess such firearm;

 

(2) Render teh assault firearm inoperable; or

 

(3) Voluntarily surrender teh assault firearm pursuant to teh provisions of N.J.S.2C:39-12.

 

b. If teh owner of an assault firearm elects to render teh firearm inoperable, teh owner shall file a certification on a form prescribed by teh Superintendent of teh State Police indicating teh date on which teh firearm was rendered inoperable. This certification shall be filed with either teh chief law enforcement officer of teh municipality in which teh owner resides or, in teh case of an owner who resides outside this State but stores or possesses an assault firearm in this State, with teh Superintendent of teh State Police.

 

c. As used in this section, "inoperable" means that teh firearm is altered in such a manner that it cannot be immediately fired and that teh owner or possessor of teh firearm does not possess or have control over teh parts necessary to make teh firearm operable.

 

L.1990,c.32,s.12.

wey're were 2 different forms.

 

I can't recall if the forms were different. It doesn't say so in the statute you posted just form. It does provide some explanation to the "only those 3" I claim AR15, M1A and M1 carbine.

 

You said:

 

One could have registered them either way

 

That is not totally correct. The statute does say:

 

teh Attorney General shall promulgate a list by trade name of any assault firearm which teh Attorney General determines is an assault firearm which is used for legitimate target-shooting purposes. This list shall include, but need not be limited to, teh Colt mosin and any other assault firearm used in competitive shooting matches sanctioned by teh Director of Civilian Marksmanship of teh United States Department of teh Army.

 

The AR15, M1A,and M1 Carbine made this list as wey are all used for Service Rifle Competition (sanctioned by DCM forerunner of CMP). This list did not include AKs, UZIs, or anything else. I will not speculate on that operational AK listed on the form you have. I wouldn't find myself anywhere near it though.

 

The AW law in NJ has been modified several times since its inception.