Someone in the local training community recently said that regular guys can not own Sims/Simunition guns.

 

While Simunition will not sell guns or Sims ammo to regular guys, there is nothing prohibiting ownership. The guns and ammo are out there if you look hard enough. The Glock 17T has to be transfered on a pistol permit just like a normal gun, and you are stuck with 10 round mags in NJ.

 

With that being said here is a picture of my Glock 17T and some Sims rounds for the doubters.

 

Somebody doubted YOU? How dare them.

Very Cool!!

That would be soooo much better than painball and airsoft.

I bet that hurts a hell ofa lot more thana paintball or air soft

if you dont mind me asking how much does all of it cost i was thinking about getting into this

"You can't have that!"

I bet that hurts a hell ofa lot more thana paintball or air soft

 

That just makes you try harder to not get shot!

 

 

if you dont mind me asking how much does all of it cost i was thinking about getting into this

 

There aren't that many out there, so prices vary quite a bit. They generaly cost about the same as a standard 17 though.

Someone in the local training community recently said that regular guys can not own Sims/Simunition guns.

 

While Simunition will not sell guns or Sims ammo to regular guys, there is nothing prohibiting ownership. The guns and ammo are out there if you look hard enough. The Glock 17T has to be transfered on a pistol permit just like a normal gun, and you are stuck with 10 round mags in NJ.

 

With that being said here is a picture of my Glock 17T and some Sims rounds for the doubters.

 

 

Yup they are the Simunition rounds but whay is the frame of the gun blue, the ones we had at GFH's first simunition class were blue slides with the special barrel, not the other way around??

 

That a new line in the simunition products

 

Harry

Yup they are the Simunition rounds but whay is the frame of the gun blue, the ones we had at GFH's first simunition class were blue slides with the special barrel, not the other way around??

 

That a new line in the simunition products

 

Harry

 

 

The Blue slide sim guns are conversion kit guns. ie the base is a "real" glock19 with an aftermarket (made by simunition) slide to be used with simunition rounds. The blue framed sim guns (glock 17t) in this case is manufactured by glock as training pistol to be used with simunitions. In my experience the blue framed guns are more reliable, but truth be told the conversion kit and complete guns don't all run 100%.

The thread is reason #3 why Joel is the man

Thanks for the info, I was only familiar with the conversion kits.

 

Want to do more with GFH and Simunitions but want to wait till later in the year, 9 different guns and plenty of ammo to keep me going for the next 6 months had put a dimple in my extra spending cash.

 

Harry

With that being said here is a picture of my Glock 17T and some Sims rounds for the doubters.

Does this mean there will be an ECQC evolution at the next class?

The thread is reason #3 why Joel is the man

 

I am afraid to ask what the first two reasons are

 

 

Does this mean there will be an ECQC evolution at the next class?

 

I have told Chris he can use it if he wants. If you or Tactical Monkey ever want to try it out just let me know and we will get together.

 

However, if you really want to take ECQC, I am taking it with Southnarc in Culpeper Virginia, November 11-13, if any of the NJ guys would like to join me.

In my experience the blue framed guns are more reliable, but truth be told the conversion kit and complete guns don't all run 100%.

 

The most common problem i have had with the 17T is that it does not work well with contact shots, and it gives a malfunction like the one pictured below.

Tap, Rack, Reassess will generally get it to fire (and you better be able to do it one handed while rolling around on the ground fighting).

Good Stuff...but 'Spensive. Rather than the Simunitions, a lot of agencies are using the .40 cal paintball markers from RAP (Real Action paintball) just because of the expense of Simunition ammo

Good Stuff...but 'Spensive. Rather than the Simunitions, a lot of agencies are using the .40 cal paintball markers from RAP (Real Action paintball) just because of the expense of Simunition ammo

 

How cheap is the RAP ammo, as I got several thousand Sims rounds for less than $0.25/round? At that rate it is not much more than live 9mm practice ammo, and I don't go through that much Sims ammo anyway. I really only use the Sims gun to work from 0 to 5 yards, as you can roll/grapple with it and it will hold up. For non contact scenarios, I find airsoft to be adequate, while being cheaper and less painful

Is the blue frame same as a Glock 17 frame, just color? Could you pur a 9mm Glock 17 slide on a Glock 17t frame and shoot 9mm?

Is the blue frame same as a Glock 17 frame, just color? Could you pur a 9mm Glock 17 slide on a Glock 17t frame and shoot 9mm?

The frame is different, and cannot accept a normal 17 slide, or locking block.

Thanks!