I have heard that a lot of people use this stuff. In paticular what does everyone use it on?

I used to use it on my AR for everything...now I mostly use it after cleaning with a solvent.

 

Curiously I recently learned that CLP is a product category, not a specific formulation. Mil-Spec formulations meet MIL-L-63460 but it's up to each mfr how to achieve that and some are better than others. Just throwing that out there.

I dont believe anything that says it can clean and lubricate at the same time. Lubricate and protect, yes, but not clean and lubricate. There will be a compromise somewere, for it to clean well it has to cut oils. If it cuts oils, how can it BE a lubricant?

 

Just think about it....

I dont believe anything that says it can clean and lubricate at the same time. Lubricate and protect, yes, but not clean and lubricate. There will be a compromise somewere, for it to clean well it has to cut oils. If it cuts oils, how can it BE a lubricant?

 

Just think about it....

 

I have always been wary of any product that says it can do multiple things well. Especially things that are the opposite of the others. If I don't like it I'll throw it out. At the moment I have a nice big can of it!

If it cuts oils, how can it BE a lubricant?

 

Just think about it....

 

Think a little harder. You mix a solvent in with an specially designed oil that isn't affected by the solvent. Push the solvent on to a surface and it degreases and then evaporates off leaving the lubricant and protector. If the surface is dirty, the solvent dissolves the oils and suspends them in the solution and you wipe it away. If the surface is clean, the solvent just evaporates away.

Think a little harder. You mix a solvent in with an specially designed oil that isn't affected by the solvent. Push the solvent on to a surface and it degreases and then evaporates off leaving the lubricant and protector. If the surface is dirty, the solvent dissolves the oils and suspends them in the solution and you wipe it away. If the surface is clean, the solvent just evaporates away.

 

 

So then if that lubricant gets dirty, you cant use CLP to clean it off/remove it because its unaffected by its own carrier?

 

Real question, not trying to be argumentative

If it cuts oils, how can it BE a lubricant?

 

Before miracle lubricants we would mix in oil with (maybe 1 to 8 ratio) with general purpose cleaning solvent (not gun cleaning solvent). When the solvent evaporated it left a film of oil on the metal. Low tech but it worked on M2 and M60 machines guns.

 

That said I think there are a lot of better solvents on the market than Breakfree but have used Breakfree for over 20 years as a lubricant. If it didn't work as such many of my guns would have worn out long along.

So then if that lubricant gets dirty, you cant use CLP to clean it off/remove it because its unaffected by its own carrier?

 

Real question, not trying to be argumentative

 

Well, it is affected by its own carrier, it's just not dissolved by it and broken down. A new application of CLP will "re-hydrate" the lubricant again and the solvent will dissolve foreign materials.

So then if that lubricant gets dirty, you cant use CLP to clean it off/remove it because its unaffected by its own carrier?

 

Real question, not trying to be argumentative

 

The solvent/carrier in CLP formulations act as solvents for their own oils/lubricant bases as well. This is why when the solvent/carrier evaporates, it leaves behind a film/residual base lubricant/protectant. You can use a fresh shot of the CLP to flush away old dirty lubricant/protectant (usually with some physical help of a brush or cloth). After cleaning with CLP, you then wipe on a fresh coating and let it dry again, bringing you back to the lubricant/protective coating. Cleaning = wet , work it, wipe away with clean cloth. Lubricating/protection phase is wet, and let dry.

 

This is how many products work. The "cleaning" action is simply the carrier solvent in action.

The solvent/carrier in CLP formulations act as solvents for their own oils/lubricant bases as well. This is why when the solvent/carrier evaporates, it leaves behind a film/residual base lubricant/protectant. You can use a fresh shot of the CLP to flush away old dirty lubricant/protectant (usually with some physical help of a brush or cloth). After cleaning with CLP, you then wipe on a fresh coating and let it dry again, bringing you back to the lubricant/protective coating. Cleaning = wet , work it, wipe away with clean cloth. Lubricating/protection phase is wet, and let dry.

 

This is how many products work. The "cleaning" action is simply the carrier solvent in action.

 

Ballistol is an excellent bore cleaner and works this way. Leaves an oil film behind after it evaporates.

If you decide to throw it out I'll take it off your hands. I love CLP.

I think I tend to throw stuff out because of 2 reasons. One is limited space and the other is my parents were/are packrats and it drives me nuts. We have been putting together a reloading bench/setup in the basement and my dad has hoppes gun oil from so long ago the price sticker says 47 cents!

 

If I don't like it and your in the area sometime it's yours. All the reviews seem pretty good thoug so who knows. I wish I got a smaller can because this is the size of regular spray paint can.

I got one of those cans of CLP roughly 2-2.5 years ago, and I have hardly put a dent in it (I stay on top of cleaning my firearms). There are better products out there, but I have a soft spot for CLP and use it frequently.

I swear by Breakfree CLP. Really good stuff, IMO. Guns, door pins, bike chains... if it's metal and should be moving, it gets CLP.

I dont believe anything that says it can clean and lubricate at the same time. Lubricate and protect, yes, but not clean and lubricate. There will be a compromise somewere, for it to clean well it has to cut oils. If it cuts oils, how can it BE a lubricant?

 

Just think about it....

 

I hear what you are saying but what about Otis products, I have herd many good things about them and have been using them for a little while with good results, just putting that our there to see if anyone know something different.

 

Harry

I use it and love it on all my guns.

I hear what you are saying but what about Otis products, I have herd many good things about them and have been using them for a little while with good results, just putting that our there to see if anyone know something different.

 

Harry

 

 

read the thread.

 

Uncle Sam introduced me to CLP in the early 80s it replaced RBC and GAA. If it works on a 105mm bore and breach block as well as the bore evacuator it will work on your weapons. Not to mention every small arm you find in an Armor Company. For really tough stuff like lead or copper fouling I break out a tougher solvent but its great as an all around cleaner and lube. it also is a great rust preventer as well.

 

I conducted my own little test to see how it worked to stop rust. I took 4 10 penny nails and drove them into a wood block. Coated one with clp, one with WD 40 one with a silicon lube and one bare. put them in a container of water for 2 weeks and then let them sit out for 2 weeks. The only nail without rust was the CLP one.

 

TC

Ballistol is an excellent bore cleaner and works this way. Leaves an oil film behind after it evaporates.

Ballistol is all I use now. I clean with Ballistol and Lube with Gun Butter, or Mobil 1

You guys have to try G96 Gun Treatment, a spray on CLP type product which smells great. Also a NJ based company. I primarily use it for a finishing touch after cleaning, and before spot oil/greasing. Spray on, let sit, wipe off. Leaves a nice finish.

 

They also have a CLP synthetic oil that I have not tried yet. I may order the oil soon to try it out since I'm so happy with the Gun Treatment. Apparently the CLP oil does not contain solvents, pretty interesting as the base oil must act as the "cleaner" as well.

 

http://www.g96.com/

 

What is the difference between G96 Gun Treatment or Gun Oil and G96 Synthetic CLP Gun Oil? Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has been approved by the US Military (MIL-PRF-63460E) whereas Gun Treatment is not an approved product for the US Military.Gun Treatment and Gun Oil are petroleum based. The Synthetic CLP gun oil is synthetic based. The Synthetic CLP Gun Oil is 85% biodegradable and contains no VOC's.Synthetic CLP Gun Oil only comes in a liquid form whereas G96 Gun Treatment is available in either a liquid bottle or an aerosol spray can.Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has slightly better cold weather specifications. Synthetic CLP gun oil is rated at -74F and Gun Treatment is rated at -50F.Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has slightly better corrosion protection and slightly better clean up after firing.Synthetic CLP Gun Oil has Corrosion Protection from Propellant Reaction ProductsBoth have excellent properties for Preservation protection for long and short term.Neither product will evaporate.Neither product will thicken or congeal.