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Newbie question regarding AWB

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If I bought a AW banned firearm online unknowingly, would the FFL dealer still do the transfer like usual, or would he tell me straight that it's AWBed and refuse the transfer?

Well talking about the NJ assault weapons restrictions, rather than the former federal AWB, if they receive an assault weapon, it has to be signed into a special assault weapon book for the state. Transfers out of that book have to be compliant with the law. Which means not to you and me, average law abiding citizens.

If I bought a AW banned firearm online unknowingly, would the FFL dealer still do the transfer like usual, or would he tell me straight that it's AWBed and refuse the transfer?

Your asking if an FFL will knowingly transfer an illegal firearm to you... hell no. Ordering a firearm online is the same thing as buying one at your local gun shop, they cannot transfer a gun to you unless it's legal, you may own said rifle, but you may not possess it, at least in NJ. Your FFl should know what is being sent to them, im pretty sure there gonna be pissed when a banned rifle comes in the mail unknowingly.

I don't mean to sound harsh here but get with it. The way i read the question, i bought an illegal firearm, can i keep it?

 

You can have them make arrangements to make it legal, but let them know what is coming in the mail. They may have to call a gunsmith and have it shipped out.

What banned about the rifle? bayo lug? mag capacity? stock? Flash hider?

 

My FFL for instance will not even touch banned rifles, they would end up returning to sender.

Depending on the dealer and the firearm, it's possible the FFL will modify the gun for you to make it NJ compliant. But that's something you would have to discuss with your FFL.

No, you cannot take possession. Is it possible that some FFLs would transfer it to you unknowingly? Yes, but then both of you will be able to sit in jail together. If it was a mistake, the FFL could do the work to make it compliant, ship it to another FFL for compliance work, or sell it for you out of state.

While Jack's answer may have been a bit harsh, I think he's right in terms of what the FFL will/will not do.

 

I'm 99% sure that if it's a weapon that's banned by name, he will not transfer it to you at all, ever.

 

If it's banned by having too many "evil features," then the FFL may be willing to have it fixed (at your expense) to be NJ compliant. Either way, warn the FFL of what is on the way. Perhaps better, ask the online seller if you can refund/return/exchange or cover reselling costs before they ship it out.

 

Best of luck.

Well if it's not banned by name then any of the modifications are easy to get done to make it compliant. It just a matter of finding someone to do it and getting it there.

OP, I'm betting you just worded your question wrong.

 

I'll fix it for you:

 

"I like this particular gun that I see online, would a FFL dealer in NJ work with me to make sure that it is NJ legal for me to own before I order it and have it shipped to them?" A: Yes, they will let you know if it is NJ legal or not either giving you permission to have it shipped to them or not for the tranaction. Some FFL/dealers have the ability to permanently alter otherwise non-permitted guns to make them NJ legal as well.

I have handled at least one transferred firearm in NJ that had at least one too many evil features..

 

FFLs are people.. that are capable of making errors.. therefore some are quality.. and do things by the book and know what they are doing.. others error on the side of being TOO strict.. but yet others might be a little more loose than should be....

 

so at the end of the day YOU better be sure you are buying a NJ compliant rifle..

I would be shocked if you got the rifle and I think it's out of line to want to receive the illegal gun.

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NOT trying to receive an illegal gun, also the question was a hypothetical one. I just wanted to know if the dealer will catch the AWB, otherwise I'd have to do my own research, and I'm not very good at it.

 

I would be shocked if you got the rifle and I think it's out of line to want to receive the illegal gun.

I bought an AR from a well known FFL that somehow made it through in a less than legal configuration. At the time I didn't know much about them and just assumed it was all good and legal. After some research I determined that it had an A2 flash suppressor on the barrel, rather than the A2 style muzzle brake, and also that it wasn't even pinned, but had a normal threaded barrel. It wasn't the end of the world because it enabled me to swap the gas block and then pin and weld an FSC brake on without the use of a dremel, but it could have potentially been a bad situation.

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