So, I am in the lobby my twp PD waiting to turn in the paperwork for a couple P2P's when a couple comes in - already looking frustrated. They turn to me and ask if I've done this before and I reply, "Yes, lots". He is changing an address on his FPID, which he's never used and doesn't even know where it is, and his wife is applying for the first time. They tell me that they are getting them because they are involved with Boy Scouts or 4H or some such youth organization and have to transport air rifles, used in their camp activities. He ask me, point blank if it was true that they needed them. I replied, "No, it is a Firearms PURCHASE Identification Card" and is not required for transport (didn't even get into as long as you are transporting under one of the exemptions). I went on to tell them that the AG issued an opinion that it is advisable to have one when transporting, becuase it shows that you are not a "prohibited person", but it is not required by law. He harumphed and said they were told it was the law. I reiterated that that was incorrect.

 

You can see this one coming, right? The LEO, one of two detectives that processes firearms apps, comes out from the back and the first thing out of the husband's mouth is the same question he ask me. To which the LEO replied, "Yes that is right, you need these to transport".

 

I wasn't going to call him on it in front of these people - I do want to get my apps processed in a timely fashion, but it is just indicative of the battles we fight everyday. John Q Citizen who is new to firearms and the whole process is naturally going to ask the PD any questions. Look at what gunnarsport went through with his twp PD - remember when he refused to believe us that you could get more than one P2P at a time - because that's what the PD told him? It's a constant struggle with misinformation.

 

The more I listened to this couple, the more amazed I was. This was their third time back, and they still didn't have the correct forms, the correct money orders, they had signed the mental health form with no witness, the whole ball of wax. Ever on the alert for an opportunity, I asked them that, if there was a service that guided them through the process, correctly, the first time, for a nominal fee, would they have availed themselves of it. They replied negatively. I had to bite my tongue to keep from pointing out that they had wasted more in gas, running back & forth four times, than such a service might cost. Just amazing.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

+1 for attempting to inform. Just last night I was in my Professional and Legal Writing class....my professor works for the Mercer County Prosecutors Office, and is quite successful. In a relevant discussion, she made a comment that hollow points are illegal for citizens to own. I corrected her and mentioned the exemptions, but she was still skeptical and said she would have to verify. She then verified that I was right with one of her co-workers. I can't fault her, she doesn't work in firearms. I fault the confusing laws. It was still nice to know that I helped clear up some misinformation though.

ugh I'm going to be sick. Having to stand there and let the PD out right lie to these people because you fear being punished in the form of delayed permits on your end. I hate this state. This is why I have no respect for the PD here. You can blame the confusing laws all you want, but if it was just that then why would we fear punishment for simply correcting them?