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CAI M74 range report

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Took the M74 and my M1A Scout to the range today. It was iron sight day for me, it's been a loong time.

 

Happy to report 90 rounds through the M74 went without a hitch. All went bang and the rifle did what it was supposed to do.

 

The sights definately need adjustment for windage. They are off about 12" to the left. Of course I do not have an AK sight adjustment tool, so that something I'm about to order after typing this. Groupings were decent, but I wasn't really trying hard as its difficult to aim sorta off the paper. No key-holing or anything like it. Nice small round holes. So far I'm pretty happy, I blame myself for not having the proper tool when it come to the sight.. but it would have been nice to be factory sighted in. Nothing against CAI, as they would probably need to jack up the $$ on the rifle to do this to account for the extra time.

 

One thing I did note during cleaning was that the russian surplus ammo powder is probably made out of recycled tires and chimney soot. Filthy stuff.

 

Shooting impressions... nice trigger being the Tapco G2. Has a longish pull then nice break that surprises you, no obvious hangups before the boom. Handling was good, the 5.45 round is super mild in the recoil department. I'll be more critical when I can slow fire it from the bench after I get the sights worked out. Will report back after I have the tool and can do that.

I always have my AK/SKS sight pusher in my range bag. Come to shore shot on a Tuesday night and you can borrow mine.

I blame myself for not having the proper tool when it come to the sight.. but it would have been nice to be factory sighted in.

You can't blame yourself for this, my Saiga's sights need to be adjusted as well and I have yet to order the tool. There are enough floating around that I will probably try to borrow one.....like Chris's :icon_mrgreen:

 

In a pinch, you could probably use a small C clamp for left/right, and needle nose pliers for up/down.

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I tried banging it with my leatherman MUT hammer end, but all that did was scratch it up a little... well more like give it character. :)

 

Tool is ordered , will have it mid-next week. I really should have one anyway

I tried banging it with my leatherman MUT hammer end

 

Wha? Pics! Did you get the extra bits and the MOLLE holder?

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Wha? Pics! Did you get the extra bits and the MOLLE holder?

 

Not sure on the extra bits, but has the MOLLE holder. I sorta bent the brass carbon cleaning tool trying to adjust the M74 sight. :icon_e_confused:

 

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Thanks Danny!

I wanna hold and use your tool, HAH!

 

jk

 

I think the Molle pouch has a space for extra bits, and the MUT has the ability to use them correct?

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Stay away from my tool Ray Ray!

 

You made me look, and yes I discovered a sleeve in the sheath that can hold additional bits. Now I have to order a bit set, just in case some zombie killing device requires it. :)

I thought so Daniel. It's definetly a do-all tool. I like the molle pouch as it handles the tool AND the extra's. Any complaints or things you don't like?

another question would be why use a tool designed for an AR on an AK?

 

But I digress

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I thought so Daniel. It's definetly a do-all tool. I like the molle pouch as it handles the tool AND the extra's. Any complaints or things you don't like?

 

I've been very impressed with the quality of the tool. I haven't used all the functions for their intended purposes yet, but I have no doubt it will handle them well. The only thing I would like to have differently is the black finish, it is a dull matt oxide type of finish, where I prefer the DLC optional finish they offer in the Skeletool line.

 

As far as using it on the M74, it flat our refused to work. No doubt it was tool snobbery that prevented it from happening, as the MUT literally wiped itself down with a silicon cloth after coming in contact with the M74.

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12 inches off? how far were you shooting?

 

Only 50 yards.

 

The front sight post is canted in the post holder, like it was threaded in off-center. I'm sure that can't be good for accuracy. I'm going to unscrew and re-seat the sight post once I get the tool, see if that fixes it.

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Where'd you find/buy the MUT from? And how muchie? :)

 

About $130 from knifecenter.com. My link

 

Oh one thing to add. It did come with a wrench type thing. It broke after using it to loosen a scope ring mount. It was very brittle apparently. I was going to call leatherman on it, but just never did, and now the broken part is lost. Ohwell. So thats the only negative experience so far.

Only 50 yards.

 

The front sight post is canted in the post holder, like it was threaded in off-center. I'm sure that can't be good for accuracy. I'm going to unscrew and re-seat the sight post once I get the tool, see if that fixes it.

 

 

If its threaded in fully, it is not going to be fixed by simply removing it and putting it in. The drum must be drilled crooked(assuming you actually mean off-square and not off center). Are you sure the entire front sight base is not canted? If its just the drum that is drilled crooked, just buy this http://www.copesdistributing.net/product_info.php?products_id=1848

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It's difficult to tell if the sight is off-square (thanks) or the drum is just off center in the front sight base. Now that I look at it more, could be the drum and not the sight. Not sure if the sight base is canted, everything looks crooked on these style rifles to me.

 

Tool should arrive around Wed.

 

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INO, your picture is not taken straight.

 

Tried to center better, then took one of the opposite side as to which the original appears to be tilted.

 

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This may be better:

 

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unless the picture is at a really goofy angle.. the post is does not look centered in the drum but that is a pretty minimal issue since the function of adjustment is to drive that drum left and right.. the sight block may or may not be canted can't tell in the picture.. the problem with how they did it is that if the post is not centered.. and you have to drift it too far left or right, you COULD run out of adjustment room.. as glenn pointed out you can replace that stuff if need be.. but honestly.. maybe just contact the seller and see if they will send you a replacement.. that is of course if you find yourself running out of adjustment..

 

with all due respect 12in off at 50 is pretty ridiculous.. it kind of make you wonder if they even bothered to fire the thing before selling it to you..

 

good luck with it.. let us know how it works out for you!

after looking at last picture posted.. the whole drum looks moved which is OK because that is how the tool moves the sight.. it may be an illusion.. but the whole sight does look crooked to me.. which may be a complete non issue as long as you can 0 it..

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Thanks Vlad, I agree with you, even if it is crooked in the drum, provided i have enough adjustment room for windage, it won't matter much. I highly doubt CAI zero'd the thing before releasing it. Not a huge deal considering what I paid for it.

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