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Florida resident wants handguns in NJ???

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I have lived in NJ most of my life, however, last year I homesteaded in Florida but I still have a house in NJ. In NJ, I purchased many shotguns with my ID card. However, now I'm hooked on handguns and they are very easy to get in FL. I recently discovered that it may not be safe to bring any handguns purchased in FL to NJ via car, it's just not worth the hassal because the NJ law is very gray. So, I was thinking that I would apply for a permit in NJ and keep a handgun here for home defense and going to the range.

My question is: can I get a permit in NJ as a FL resident? Or, is there a safe and legal way to transport my handguns from FL?

 

Thanks!

 

Tony

There are handgun carry permits and there are handgun purchase permits in NJ. Neither is required to have a handgun in your home and you will not be able to get a NJ carry permit. You are completely legal bringing a handgun to your home in NJ and using it at the range.

I have lived in NJ most of my life, however, last year I homesteaded in Florida but I still have a house in NJ. In NJ, I purchased many shotguns with my ID card. However, now I'm hooked on handguns and they are very easy to get in FL. I recently discovered that it may not be safe to bring any handguns purchased in FL to NJ via car, it's just not worth the hassal because the NJ law is very gray. So, I was thinking that I would apply for a permit in NJ and keep a handgun here for home defense and going to the range.

My question is: can I get a permit in NJ as a FL resident? Or, is there a safe and legal way to transport my handguns from FL?

 

Thanks!

 

Tony

 

You should check with Gary Needleman of Needleman & Pisano, 161 Main RdMontville, NJ 07045

(973) 334-4422. Keep his number in your cell phone. He is very helpful.

 

Always transport firearms unloaded, magazines unloaded and any ammumition separate from a firearm. All should be in the trunk or locked case that is not easily accessible.

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You should check with Gary Needleman of Needleman & Pisano, 161 Main RdMontville, NJ 07045

(973) 334-4422. Keep his number in your cell phone. He is very helpful.

 

Always transport firearms unloaded, magazines unloaded and any ammumition separate from a firearm. All should be in the trunk or locked case that is not easily accessible.

 

I had been advised to call the NJ state police to clarify the law, however, the website says that the state police can't advise on legal matters so contact a lawyer. I guess that's what you're saying.

 

Thanks for your help!

Also, just in case you don't already know - don't bring any magazines capable of holding more than 15 rounds into NJ.

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There are handgun carry permits and there are handgun purchase permits in NJ. Neither is required to have a handgun in your home and you will not be able to get a NJ carry permit. You are completely legal bringing a handgun to your home in NJ and using it at the range.

 

so if I get stopped on my way home in NJ with a handgun locked in my car I can allow the police to search my car with no NJ paperwork for the gun? I won't be arrested?

I can allow the police to search my car with no NJ paperwork for the gun?

 

We're getting into other things here. Why would you let the police search your car? No one here can determine if the police are going to arrest you whether you deserve to or not.

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I can allow the police to search my car with no NJ paperwork for the gun?

 

We're getting into other things here. Why would you let the police search your car? No one here can determine if the police are going to arrest you whether you deserve to or not.

 

I mean I can't be arrested just for having a handgun in my car even though it's locked in my trunk and everything else is cool?

Let's throw another wrench into things.

 

If you're worried about the legality of having the gun in the car while driving from FL or the airport to your house, you can always ship the pistol to yourself via FedEx or UPS overnight. Which means if you can legally purchase a handgun in FL, then you can buy a handgun in FL and ship it to yourself (and you must receive it) in NJ for keeping at your house. There is no ID (commonly called FID or FPID) required for having a firearm in your house or for transporting it to and from the range and using it at the range.

 

I don't care to opine about driving with a gun in your car between FL and NJ or the airport and your home and whether it's legal under the various ridiculous laws.

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Let's throw another wrench into things.

 

If you're worried about the legality of having the gun in the car while driving from FL or the airport to your house, you can always ship the pistol to yourself via FedEx or UPS overnight. Which means if you can legally purchase a handgun in FL, then you can buy a handgun in FL and ship it to yourself (and you must receive it) in NJ for keeping at your house. There is no ID (commonly called FID or FPID) required for having a firearm in your house or for transporting it to and from the range and using it at the range.

 

I don't care to opine about driving with a gun in your car between FL and NJ or the airport and your home and whether it's legal under the various ridiculous laws.

 

The shipping idea could make sence, but you are correct that these gun laws are ridiculous!

 

Thanks for all your input.

Tony

I mean I can't be arrested just for having a handgun in my car even though it's locked in my trunk and everything else is cool?

 

What you can or can't be arrested for is one issue.

 

However, if you are traveling to your home with a handgun locked in your trunk unloaded, you are legally within an exemption in the law on having a handgun. You see, handguns are 100% illegal in NJ with exemptions to the illegality. One of the exemptions is traveling from one home to another home with the gun being properly stored and inaccessible during transit.

 

If everything is working properly, you'll be sent on your way. If the LEO believes, incorrectly, that you must have a firearms purchaser ID to have a handgun, he's going to arrest you. That said, you can demand at the scene to speak to a supervisor who should know better.

 

The point is, if you're coming from your home in Florida, going to your home in NJ, following these rules: “shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in [sic] the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary.” You are legal.

 

Don't get pulled over. If you get pulled over, don't consent to a search and don't give the officer probable cause to do a search and you will never get to the point of worrying about illegality.

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What you can or can't be arrested for is one issue.

 

However, if you are traveling to your home with a handgun locked in your trunk unloaded, you are legally within an exemption in the law on having a handgun. You see, handguns are 100% illegal in NJ with exemptions to the illegality. One of the exemptions is traveling from one home to another home with the gun being properly stored and inaccessible during transit.

 

If everything is working properly, you'll be sent on your way. If the LEO believes, incorrectly, that you must have a firearms purchaser ID to have a handgun, he's going to arrest you. That said, you can demand at the scene to speak to a supervisor who should know better.

 

The point is, if you're coming from your home in Florida, going to your home in NJ, following these rules: “shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in [sic] the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary.” You are legal.

 

Don't get pulled over. If you get pulled over, don't consent to a search and don't give the officer probable cause to do a search and you will never get to the point of worrying about illegality.

 

This is a really good explanation! The police may be as confused as I am on this issue, however, I guess the key is "don't get pulled over" and follow the rules on locked containment of the firearm.

 

Thanks again!

Tony

Others have explained it well....

But I would add that you might want to carry the law with the exemption for carrying a properly stored handgun from your residence in Fl to your home in NJ. I would also carry proof of sort(deed to propery/house in NJ). That is just my 2 cents!

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Others have explained it well....

But I would add that you might want to carry the law with the exemption for carrying a properly stored handgun from your residence in Fl to your home in NJ. I would also carry proof of sort(deed to propery/house in NJ). That is just my 2 cents!

 

Thanks!

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