about 90% of the time it is..i've seen VERY few legitimate cases of DV with the male as the "Victim"..most fo the time the male claims he's assaulted his "Injuries" are defensive wounds from the girl who's being choked or what have you. Now, that doesnt mean the system ISNT Skewed in favor of the Women. As usual, the state of NJ, in response to Stupidity on the part of the State and City of NY (That's why we cant have Tasers here..but thats another rant) after some SPECTACULAR failures on the part of the Courts System and Judges when it came to DV issues. At that things are better now, there was a time about 20 years ago when the rules were changing literally daily..what was a "Shall Arrest" Scenario one day was a "May Arrest" Scenario the next.

Little known fact is that most of the time it is women that are the perpetrators of domestic violence. The reason that most people don't think so is cultural. For one the general population does not think that women commit crimes like this so whenever there is a case of one the first thing people do is think that the man did something to cause the woman to snap. Secondly as a society there is a belief that men should just take it. If you can't take it then you are not a man, combined with pride and not wanting to be known as the guy who was "beating up" by a woman leads to them not reporting it.

Of course this fact is not helped by the fact that men tend to be stronger than women so when they commit acts of domestic violence serious injury is more likely.

Basically we're supposed to allow the utter and total contempt and trampling on our rights, illegal intrusion into the sanctity of our homes, and then ATTEMPT to hold those involved responsible for it in a court system stacked ridiculously in their favor and against "qualified immunity"??

 

Yea that'll work well for us. Not only will we not succeed in these courts after the fact, we will more than likely be held accountable for their legal fees. Then try to apply for a pistol permit after having sued the locals....

 

Amen john. The State of the State = Joe Stalin. The Cops smell drugs and they break in. The Feds suspect terrorism and they break in = no warrant. If you are innocent and talk about the incident you are charged. The Great Patriot Crap Act.

 

I feel so safe.

Well - if you believe the MSM, it's because I'm a 40's white male clinging to my guns and religion...

 

I love you.

Little known fact is that most of the time it is women that are the perpetrators of domestic violence. The reason that most people don't think so is cultural. For one the general population does not think that women commit crimes like this so whenever there is a case of one the first thing people do is think that the man did something to cause the woman to snap. Secondly as a society there is a belief that men should just take it. If you can't take it then you are not a man, combined with pride and not wanting to be known as the guy who was "beating up" by a woman leads to them not reporting it.

Of course this fact is not helped by the fact that men tend to be stronger than women so when they commit acts of domestic violence serious injury is more likely.

 

 

yeah..no. handle a few thousand of them then come talk to me

yeah..no. handle a few thousand of them then come talk to me

 

I'm sure you get called to houses where men are crying at the top of their lungs and the neighbors just HAD to call.

 

There's no obvious evidence of it so it just must not exist, though in all probability it does exist at much higher numbers.

 

I'm sure you get called to male rapes all the time too.

I was a victim of domestic violence once! A girl I was dating got really pissed at me and came at me. She hit me, ripped by shirt and my undershirt. I had a scratch mark and some red marks. Luckily it was in front of her house and the neighbor was out on her porch and witnessed the whole thing. When the lady yelled "hey cut it out" I yelled to her to please call the police. I also called the police as soon as I got her off me and was able to get to my phone. I ended up pushing her so hard she fell on her a**. She did not have one mark on her.

 

Police come, guess who gets thrown in the back of the cop car? ME. After 10 minutes they come talk to me and get my side of the story. WTF I called them. I tell them, obviously her side doesn't match. I tell them to go talk to the lady next door thats on the porch. The entire time I was talked down to and treated like a criminal. They go talk to the lady and 10 minutes later they come over let me out of the car and are nothing but apologies. I was so pissed off at both of them and the chick.

 

It took everything in my power not to knock that chick into the middle of next week. I would even say that if I was 25 and not 30 at the time I prob would have. I have to attribute keeping my cool with the wisdom that comes with age.

 

Is it still domestic violence if it happens in front of her apt?

Domestic Violence (As defined by Google):

 

Any hurtful or unwanted behavior perpetrated upon an individual by an intimate or prior intimate. Includes; physical, psychological and emotional abuse.

 

As I take it Domestic Violence is Domestic Violence no matter where you are, or who you are with. Whether you are married, dating, or in a Domestic Partnership, if you are being abused or are abusing your partner it is Domestic Violence. You could be in Acme or in Applebee's. If you are being emotionally berated, or physically assaulted by your partner (or vice versa) its Domestic Violence.

 

Now the whole Community Care taking thing. What if you show up at a residence and a possible Domestic Abuse case. You talk to the Husband/wife and then their partner. The partner shows no sign of injury, claims everything is OK, and that theres nothing to worry about. Do you just take it on faith and leave them with a warning or do you do something a bit more extreme?

I'm sure you get called to houses where men are crying at the top of their lungs and the neighbors just HAD to call.

 

There's no obvious evidence of it so it just must not exist, though in all probability it does exist at much higher numbers.

 

I'm sure you get called to male rapes all the time too.

 

reading is fundamental...I already posted that I have handled LEGITIMATE cases of the male being the vcitim, I have also had hundreds of cases that were BS from the start..and if it progressed that far i also make sure the JUDGE knows it's BS..however at that point my role is pretty much done, and the Judge will mostly err on the side of caution.

 

Screw it though, I'll just remain silent from now on since you folks all seem to already know the answers.

I was a victim of domestic violence once! A girl I was dating got really pissed at me and came at me. She hit me, ripped by shirt and my undershirt. I had a scratch mark and some red marks. Luckily it was in front of her house and the neighbor was out on her porch and witnessed the whole thing. When the lady yelled "hey cut it out" I yelled to her to please call the police. I also called the police as soon as I got her off me and was able to get to my phone. I ended up pushing her so hard she fell on her a**. She did not have one mark on her.

 

Police come, guess who gets thrown in the back of the cop car? ME. After 10 minutes they come talk to me and get my side of the story. WTF I called them. I tell them, obviously her side doesn't match. I tell them to go talk to the lady next door thats on the porch. The entire time I was talked down to and treated like a criminal. They go talk to the lady and 10 minutes later they come over let me out of the car and are nothing but apologies. I was so pissed off at both of them and the chick.

 

It took everything in my power not to knock that chick into the middle of next week. I would even say that if I was 25 and not 30 at the time I prob would have. I have to attribute keeping my cool with the wisdom that comes with age.

 

Is it still domestic violence if it happens in front of her apt?

yes it is..it's still Domestic if it happens when you're both in another state. that said, going only by what you posted, She should have been arrested and charged with Simple Assault. someoen dropped the ball..if it had been my town she would have been going for a ride....even if you DIDNT want her to go.

Domestic Violence (As defined by Google):

 

 

 

As I take it Domestic Violence is Domestic Violence no matter where you are, or who you are with. Whether you are married, dating, or in a Domestic Partnership, if you are being abused or are abusing your partner it is Domestic Violence. You could be in Acme or in Applebee's. If you are being emotionally berated, or physically assaulted by your partner (or vice versa) its Domestic Violence.

 

Now the whole Community Care taking thing. What if you show up at a residence and a possible Domestic Abuse case. You talk to the Husband/wife and then their partner. The partner shows no sign of injury, claims everything is OK, and that theres nothing to worry about. Do you just take it on faith and leave them with a warning or do you do something a bit more extreme?

 

you cant have a Crime without a Victim. Absent Visible Signs of Injury (You may see that material again at a later time) or a complaint by one of the parties you have nothing more than a verbal dispute, which according to the AG guidelines is NOT automatically DV. So, yes you and your wife can yell at each other, and as long as it deosnt fall into getting physical, it's NOT supposed to be classified as DV.