I searched and couldn't find a straight answer. So I figured what better place to call then NJSP. Here is a recap of the conversation after pushing few buttons on the phone's automated service with the guy answering:

 

-"Firearms"

 

ME: Hello, I'm not a NJ resident and wanted to know what criteria I need to meet in order to fly legally into Newark with a rifle?

 

GUY: Is it a hunting rifle?

 

ME: Yes, old bolt action rifle (It's a 1942 Mosin-Nagant, I didn't specify that)

 

GUY: Are you legally possessing the rifle in your state?

 

ME: Yes

 

GUY: Locked container with ammunition separated from it

 

ME: I don't need any kind of permit or FPIC?

 

GUY: Nope

 

And that's it. Is it really that easy? I read that you need permits, but I couldn't find specifics, I know handguns for sure. The whole traveling through state by car had some info, but I couldn't find anything on flying in other than people getting arrested on arrival as soon as they go to claim their weapon from the airline.

 

So can anyone confirm any of this. I know I called NJSP, but I just can't believe that it's so cut and dried. Seems too simple. Thanks in advance!

Sounds right to me!

You do not need any kind of permit to have a gun in NJ as long as you fall within stated exemptions to the complete prohibition on firearms. There are FOPA protections if you are simply passing through. Once you stay in NJ, that's when the problems start. If you're going to a rental or leased house you're legal, a hotel, not so much.

 

Having the firearms in the car or room as you stay at a hotel in NJ is going to be a problem legally so my advice is not to do it. If you're just passing though once you're off the airplane, you're covered under FOPA. If you're stopped with a firearm in the vehicle, make a point not to get your car tossed or agree to a search and do not volunteer anything about the guns. You are not legally required to inform an officer you have guns in the car, avail yourself of your rights and keep your mouth shut. Loose lips equal silver bracelets and a night in lockup.

 

In general, what you were told is correct. The issue is that it's very easy to deviate off the narrow path you're legally required to follow.

The NJSP Firearms Unit is the ultimate authority on firearm laws. They are extremely knowledgable and are a great group of guys. I give them two thumbs up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Especially the Lt.

So would I be stepping into the gray area if I was visiting family in NJ? And if I chose to leave the rifle at my family's residence for future travels along the Easter Seaboard, is that a nono?

 

BTW, my answer to "Do you have any weapons in the car?" is "How is that related to why you stopped me?" provided it is a traffic stop. I never consent to a search either.

So would I be stepping into the gray area if I was visiting family in NJ? And if I chose to leave the rifle at my family's residence for future travels along the Easter Seaboard, is that a nono?

 

 

Yes it's a gray area. That said, unless the cops have a reason to raid the place, how would it ever become actionable? This is not legal advice. I'd bring my guns, take them to the range and leave them in the house when I'm just sight seeing. When they are in the car, be cautious and discreet. One would think you won't be drawing any unwarranted attention if you're not creating a visible problem.

If you've never checked a rifle on to an airplane before its actually absurdly easy. I can explain more, or any other member can if you've never gone through this procedure.

 

Once you get here retrieve your rifle, go home and drop it off unless you are going to the range straight from the airport. I'd suggest not travelling around with it in your car, as its a legal no no to travel with a weapon in your car if you are not going to the range. Or at least thats how I take it. Other than that the NJSP are the end all be all authority about this.

If you've never checked a rifle on to an airplane before its actually absurdly easy. I can explain more, or any other member can if you've never gone through this procedure.

 

Once you get here retrieve your rifle, go home and drop it off unless you are going to the range straight from the airport. I'd suggest not travelling around with it in your car, as its a legal no no to travel with a weapon in your car if you are not going to the range. Or at least thats how I take it. Other than that the NJSP are the end all be all authority about this.

 

That actually applies to handguns. It isn't illegal to have an unloaded long gun in your trunk if you have an FID in your possession.

Just throwing this out there....not all airlines allow you to declare a weapon at check in anymore. Some have optioned not to fool with it. I dont remember the specific airlines that do or dont now, so I would confirm with the airline before you book a ticket.

I know Southwest still allows you to check long guns.

i just flew with southwest also, and brought to pistols with me couldnt be easier. i was actually surprised how easy it was.

These seem to be for commercial flights. Rules when flying private general aviation aircraft will be different and more like when you are driving a car. No check-in or agents to worry about, no long security lines, just way expensive.