Sometimes "Oops" just doesn't cut it.

 

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A Lacey Township police officer sustained injuries after an officer’s weapon accidently discharged, officials said.

 

At approximately 8:50 p.m. a police officer’s weapon accidently discharged within the department’s squad room after a training exercise.

 

One police officer suffered minor injuries and was transported to Community Medical Center.

 

The names of those involved in the incident were not released.

 

The incident is under investigation.

I hope everyone is okay.....

i guess that guy never got the gun safety memo.

Reminded me of .... "Im the only one in this room professional enough to carry this Glock .40"....BANG...

Reminded me of .... "Im the only one in this room professional enough to carry this Glock .40"....BANG...

 

Yea, you couldn't have scripted that any better.

 

Harry

an officer’s weapon accidently discharged, officials said.

 

The weapon did NOT accidentally discharge, it is not a water balloon that sprung a leak, or a teenager suffering from premature ejaculation. Someone put their bugger finger on the happy switch while pointing it at a co-worker. If this happened to someone who wasn't a police officer it would have read "Timmy accidentally shoots Bobby"

Don't they teach these cops gun safety anymore? Geez.

 

I swear, I think they have a higher accident rate than civilian gun owners.

Don't they teach these cops gun safety anymore? Geez.

 

I swear, I think they have a higher accident rate than civilian gun owners.

 

The news only reports the accidental shootings of Police. Civilian accidents are much, much, much more frequent.

 

If this happened to someone who wasn't a police officer it would have read "Timmy accidentally shoots Bobby"

 

 

It would be a 'negligent discharge."

what type of gun was it?

Police should be held to the same standards as non police.

Police should be held to the same standards as non police.

 

Police are always held to a higher standard than civilians. Sure you can always argue that that some police get away with minor infractions due to professional courtesy... But that does not apply to any serious crimes. Police officers are often given the maximum allowable sentence for their crimes...

Police are always held to a higher standard than civilians.

 

You mean, like shooting someone in training and the charges are what again?

 

Or the cop who got drunk and left his gun on the sidewalk and got charged for?

 

If you believe you're statement, you're being willfully ignorant. When a cop's behavior has become so egregious that it cannot be ignored, then and only then are the charges brought to bear with maximum penalty.

 

When they start jailing and firing cops for behavior that would put me in jail, I might tend to agree with you.

 

 

Edited to add: Since when is it courtesy to allow police to skate on infractions? Call it by it's real definition, Unethical, unprofessional, illegal behavior?

Edited June 3, 201115 yr by Malsua

Let's make the situation the civilian equivalent. I am attending a training class at Gun For Hire( free plug) and my pistol has an "accidental discharge". And minor injuries are sustained. Would I be charged? Would I not make a trip to a cell?

I hate the term "gun accidentally discharged." They really mean someone accidentally discharged the gun.

Let's make the situation the civilian equivalent. I am attending a training class at Gun For Hire( free plug) and my pistol has an "accidental discharge". And minor injuries are sustained. Would I be charged? Would I not make a trip to a cell?

 

It depends on the discharge, but I honestly don't think you would be charged in most cases.

Relax everybody, it was probably just a "desk pop"

 

Relax everybody, it was probably just a "desk pop"

 

omg i was just gonna post this!!!! they should give him a wood gun until he is ready for the real deal.. ahaha!

That video might be closer to what really happened. In the video when he hands over the weapon he drops the mag but doesn't clear the chamber.

what type of gun was it?

If it was a patrolman, I'm pretty sure it was a Glock 22.

Police are civilians. Active Military men and women are not.

Police are civilians. Active Military men and women are not.

I agree with you on that Alex.

 

As to the prevalence of LE vs. non LE negligent discharges, it is anecdotal, but I have only known one person who negligently shot someone (himself, while getting ready to clean a Glock). He was a good officer and family man, and I am sad we lost him.

 

I do know someone else who had a negligent discharge (not LE). He admits to having his finger on the trigger, but at least the gun was pointed in a safe direction and he only shot his floor and a basement water pipe.

I would not assume that if you legitimately accidentally shoot someone during something reasonable (a range exercise for example) that you are automatically going to jail.... I would be willing to be that if you along with others are able to clearly convey that it was a legitimate accident.. no one is prohibited.. and there are no signs of obvious negligence (alcohol for example).. there is a pretty good chance you would just go home... while a gun might make it more serious.. you can accidentally hurt someone a million and one ways.. and while it might get investigated I do not think that the use of a firearm is an automatic factor of guilt..

 

also it is easy to throw stones at the glass house that is firearms negligence.. but better to keep it in perspective.. for every one cop who makes an error.. countless LEO handle weapons on a daily basis without issue.. I believe that I am safe.. but I do not kid myself into thinking that I am above an accident.. thinking you are above error makes you more likely to commit one IMO... check... double check.. then check one more time.. just to be sure..

 

LEO firearms accidents are relatively low IMO.. think about the frequency you drive.. now think about how many times YOU have had an accident.. I am sure you are safe.. I am sure you are cautious.. but things happen.. especially when you use something SO frequently.. the same can be applied to LEO firearms interaction...

 

imo of course...

EVERY LE ND has to be documented....very few Non-LE ND's are ever documented. That said there is no excuse, ND's happen because someone gets complacent. The more Comfortable you are with your weapon the more prone you are to making a mistake.

Police are civilians. Active Military men and women are not.

 

How about firefighters? They refer to "civilians". According to Merriam-Webster, civilain is defined as:

 

one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force

 

I didn't write the dictionary just showing you whats there.

 

EVERY LE ND has to be documented....very few Non-LE ND's are ever documented.

 

This is true. I have seen a few mystery bullet holes in different places.

 

The more Comfortable you are with your weapon the more prone you are to making a mistake.

 

Another truism. Skeeter Skelton once said there are those that have had ND and those that are going to have ND. Kind of like dumping a bike.

Police are civilians. Active Military men and women are not.

 

How about firefighters? They refer to "civilians". According to Merriam-Webster, civilain is defined as:

 

one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force

 

I didn't write the dictionary just showing you whats there.

 

EVERY LE ND has to be documented....very few Non-LE ND's are ever documented.

 

This is true. I have seen a few mystery bullet holes in different places.

 

The more Comfortable you are with your weapon the more prone you are to making a mistake.

 

Another truism. Skeeter Skelton once said there are those that have had ND and those that are going to have ND. Kind of like dumping a bike.

 

it doesnt help that the Primary sidearm for LE REQUIRES you to pull the trigger to Disassemble it..it's a recipe for disaster..especially when very few departments train properly or enough, and many of those stop just short of forbidding officers to shoot or train on their own. I know of one where it is considered a Major Disciplinary breach to fire anything but departmentally issued ammo out of your service weapon, and the department ONLY provides ammo for qualifying and carrying..not one round more than the minimum necessary required by the AG. We had a rash of them when we first switched over mostly by the old-timers who were not "Shooters' to begin with. We had another group of them around 1999/2000 or so (including both myself, and our Head Instructor/ESU boss)..after a few people got suspended things tightened up again, and we haven't had any issues since. The equivalent of a $600.00 fine gets your attention.