Hi everyone. Been lurking as a guest and found this site very informative. My first post, so here goes...

 

I'm looking to get a shotgun for HD and was going to apply for an FID. However, I think I can apply for an FID and one P2P at the same time (same application?). Since I would consider getting a handgun as well I think it makes sense to do it all at once. The question is will the FID+P2P take longer than applying for FID alone? With NJ being so sensitive on handguns, I figured it would be more time/effort for the P2P. If so, I'd rather get the FID sooner and apply for a P2P afterwards as I'm not in a rush for a handgun since will have protection with the shotgun. If there's no difference, then I'll go for both.

 

Thanks,

Mike

It depends on the township in reference to the time it takes for your FID/P2P.

 

With that said, I would highly suggest you apply for pistol permits (plural, get 2 or 3 just in case rather than just 1) when you apply for your FID. It might take longer, it might take the same time, it might take less time...you just never know. Plus it's much easier to get your permits as well as your FID when you first get it, rather than get your FID then a few weeks/months later apply for pistol permits as it takes so much time.

 

It seems to average 4-6 weeks, generally speaking, to get your FID/permits.

When I first applied - I only put down 1 in the "number of handgun permits" box. If I had to do it again, I would have put down 6. I initially thought that "i don't want to look like a gun nut". Now - I don't believe the police look at the permit forms any differently whether you put down 1 initially or 6 or 60.

Also, let's say you plan to look into pistols in 3 months from now. You have 3 months to use any pistol permits so instead of getting your FID in 5 weeks (hypothetically speaking) and then 2 months later wanting a pistol, if you get your FID and permits at the same time now you will have 3 months to decide about a pistol. I know that's confusing, I hope it makes sense.

The same form works for both FID and P2P so I would definitely do both at once. And it's only $2 per handgun permit so do more than one.

Your permits will be good for 180 days with an extension. You can turn in the unused ones at that time.

You can turn in the unused ones at that time.

 

Turn in?

There is no reason that it would take longer when applying for a P2P simultaneously with a FPID. In fact, the NJSP FPID Application Guide actually recommends that your local PD ask if you anticipate purchasing a handgun in the coming months and if you answer in the affirmative recommends that you do both at the same time. They are required to do the same background checks etc - better to only have to do it once, than to go through it all over again a month or two down the road.

 

All that being said, it will still be dependent on your local PD how long that process takes - but there is no earthly reason that applying for both at the same time (all it takes is filling in the blank for how many P2P's you want) should extend the time it takes to process. Your local PD and the NJSP will thank you for it.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Thanks for the quick responses. Ok, I'll apply for both FID and P2P at the same time. Also, as djg0770 mentions, I'll apply for multiple P2P's...you never know. I'd rather have 6 and not use 5 versus having 1 and wanting more. I was just concerned that the P2P would significantly delay the FID.

 

Thanks again!

 

Mike

Thanks for the quick responses. Ok, I'll apply for both FID and P2P at the same time. Also, as djg0770 mentions, I'll apply for multiple P2P's...you never know. I'd rather have 6 and not use 5 versus having 1 and wanting more. I was just concerned that the P2P would significantly delay the FID.

 

Thanks again!

 

Mike

 

Just chiming in and piling on...definitely apply for multiple pistol permits at the same time. It won't delay the process. 5 is a good number. You can get 1 gun a month for the first three and you've got some time left for two more. Squeaking out the 6th requires some planning.

Turn in?

 

Depends on the issuing authority. Some want them back, others say to destroy.

Depends on the issuing authority. Some want them back, others say to destroy.

 

Ah, well my PD didn't mention anything about turning them in.

I like how everyone here seems so optimistic that asking for 1 or 6 doesn't matter at all. Does it probably not matter? I would hope so, but the PD's here make up their own rules!!!!!! They do what ever the hell they want and if the guy in charge decides he wants to sit on your case for a couple extra months because he doesn't like the idea of you getting 6 instead of just one he will and in the words of Officer Lopez at the West Orange PD "you can take that to who ever you want" yup, screw you you cannot stop me from doing it this way. Hell maybe he decided that anyone that gets PPP at all will take much longer.

 

Not saying this will happen, but it can. FcuK This State!

True, there's much subjectivity from the local PD. I probably won't put in 5 or 6 as that may seem excessive. I'll probably put in for 2 (maybe 3 max) as I think that's reasonable. I don't want to risk any red flags for hoarding weapons from my local PD. I live in Bergen County and it's probably one of the worst counties in one of the worst states regarding guns

screw that! go for 6! Don't let them scare you! People that live in fear of their government are subjects. Live as a citizen of the best damn country there is the United States of America! You should never fear your government those fuckfaces work for you! Apply for 6 and if you have any troubles come on here and we will help you and point you in the right direction of how to unfuck your local PD.

I "only" applied for four. My wife "only" applied for two. Now that I see how this whole thing works, we should have each applied for five. I will be applying for some more and I know how long that will probably take, but that's ok. Now that I have an FID most everyone I deal with will let me pay for the handgun and they will store it for me until I have a valid permit.

screw that! go for 6! Don't let them scare you! People that live in fear of their government are subjects. Live as a citizen of the best damn country there is the United States of America! You should never fear your government those elected representives work for you! Apply for 6 and if you have any troubles come on here and we will help you and point you in the right direction of how to deal with your local PD.

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fixed it for you try to relax

 

fixed it for you try to relax

 

 

Try to get excited. These elected officials and our PD's would be just fine with you going to jail for defending your life and your property. The New Jersey state Constitution gives us all the unalienable right to defend our life and protect our property. If they aren't playing by the rules it doesn't matter if they were elected. They need to be checked. FcuK New Jersey!