So i've been toying with the idea of getting a Stoeger Coach Gun (i'd like to get an OLD coach gun, but it may be out of my price range). A few weeks back, i had seen a Stoeger at a Dick's store and it LOOKED like it was an 18.5" barrel, but i can find no trace of it on their website. Anyone know? Or are there better SxS coach guns out there for the money?

According to their site, Stoeger Coach Guns have a 20" barrels.

 

Stoeger Coach Gun page

LOL, thanks Paul. I'll leave that up to the professionals (ie you) when i get it. It LOOKED shorter than a 20", which is why i was asking because the website only shows 20s.

I have one that's worked well for me for a few years with no trobules. The Stoegers are made 20" to meet legal criteria in other countries that's it sold in. Buy the 20" and you will not notice the difference from a 18 1/2".

Buy the 20" and you will not notice the difference from a 18 1/2".

+1

 

The action on SxS or O/U is quite a bit shorter than the action/receiver of a pump or semi-auto.. so a 20" barreled SxS is probably gonna be the same size (if not a bit shorter) than your typical 18.5" pump shotgun.

 

The action on SxS or O/U is quite a bit shorter than the action/receiver of a pump or semi-auto.. so a 20" barreled SxS is probably gonna be the same size (if not a bit shorter) than your typical 18.5" pump shotgun.

 

AH HAH! That was exactly the explanation i was looking for. It makes perfect sense. I wasn't SO concerned about the "actual" barrel length, but it just seemed like it was shorter than a 20. Perfect. Now to save the funds.

You can estimate the length of a pump will be at least 6" longer than a comparable barrel double to allow for bolt travel.

 

BAM!!!

I'm not surprised you bought the "tactical" coach gun! Pretty cool!

It's not exactly "tactical", but close enough! Seriously though, I love this thing.

Pretty much says it all.

Good write up here > http://thetruthaboutguns.com/2011/02/roy-hill/gun-review-stoeger-silverado-coach-gun-12-gauge/

I'm happy, and it was my goal all along.

I had one.. pretty sweet. then i sold it :-P

So is the Stoeger the only real choice out there?

Remington used to have one if I remember correctly... I think it was made by Baikal for Remington. That's the only one I can think of other than the Stoeger. But there must be more just for the guys that do Cowboy Action Shooting.

 

BAM!!!

 

 

i shot Rays stoeger last weekend and friggin fell in love with it.. one downside to me is no auto eject other then that its bad a**.. also the stoeger double defense ray has is 20 inches also... he should chop it down to 18.5 to be nasty

Remington used to have one if I remember correctly... I think it was made by Baikal for Remington. That's the only one I can think of other than the Stoeger. But there must be more just for the guys that do Cowboy Action Shooting.

How about used? Stevens/Springfield 311's are good stout American-made doubles that can be found for as little as $175 to a high of $250 on the used market in sometimes rough but usable shape. Many don't really have collector value. I've seen a couple cut-down and used on the SASS circuit. They are sturdy shotguns. One example: 311

i shot Rays stoeger last weekend and friggin fell in love with it.. one downside to me is no auto eject other then that its bad a**.. also the stoeger double defense ray has is 20 inches also... he should chop it down to 18.5 to be nasty

 

chop it down for what? it's an inch and a half, not that much of a difference. Plus, I'd lose the front sight, pass.

chop it down for what? it's an inch and a half, not that much of a difference. Plus, I'd lose the front sight, pass.

 

 

Right you are Ray!

Got it!

How about used? Stevens/Springfield 311's are good stout American-made doubles that can be found for as little as $175 to a high of $250 on the used market in sometimes rough but usable shape. Many don't really have collector value. I've seen a couple cut-down and used on the SASS circuit. They are sturdy shotguns. One example: 311

I like that idea too. Now to find one for a decent price.

What about an American Gun Co "Kinckerbocker"? These seem to be pretty common and cheap. Keep in mind that i'm not intending to use this as a HD or hunting gun; just something fun to shoot at the range every once in a while. I DON'T want anything of any sort of value, because i'm going to chop the barrel down to about 20" or so.

 

There appears to be one up at Jim Flynn's, but the "action is loose upon lockup". Does this mean it's not safe to shoot?

chop it down for what? it's an inch and a half, not that much of a difference. Plus, I'd lose the front sight, pass.

 

Come on bro like they cant tap it and just put that sight back in. ima chop mine and shorten the stock. haha just call me arkansas dave!

Come on bro like they cant tap it and just put that sight back in. ima chop mine and shorten the stock. haha just call me arkansas dave!

 

lotta talk for someone WITHOUT one! Put your money where your mouth is gumba.

What about an American Gun Co "Kinckerbocker"? These seem to be pretty common and cheap. Keep in mind that i'm not intending to use this as a HD or hunting gun; just something fun to shoot at the range every once in a while. I DON'T want anything of any sort of value, because i'm going to chop the barrel down to about 20" or so.

 

There appears to be one up at Jim Flynn's, but the "action is loose upon lockup". Does this mean it's not safe to shoot?

These were made by Crescent Firearms in CT. "Action is loose upon lockup" means it could loosen over time with more rounds fired. It will fire, but you may have escaping gas, etc. It's probably not worth the effort or money to repair, for the repair could probably cost more than what you invested to purchase the shotgun. If it were a family heirloom and had sentimental value, then it might be worth fixing. These were private label house brand guns and were not known for their sturdiness like other American doubles. A loose A.H. Fox is worth repairing, but not necessarily a Crescent. Keep looking!

lotta talk for someone WITHOUT one! Put your money where your mouth is gumba.

 

is that some kind of racist italian comment?

Come on bro like they cant tap it and just put that sight back in. ima chop mine and shorten the stock. haha just call me arkansas dave!

If you cut the barrels and a new muzzle is exposed, you will need to soft solder the gap closed as there will be one between the barrels and the upper rib and bottom rib. Depending on the strength and quality of the gun, the ribs can come loose over time with shooting and leaving the end unfinished will lead to such.

If you cut the barrels and a new muzzle is exposed, you will need to soft solder the gap closed as there will be one between the barrels and the upper rib and bottom rib. Depending on the strength and quality of the gun, the ribs can come loose over time with shooting and leaving the end unfinished will lead to such.

 

ya but thats why you bring it to a gunsmith i wouldnt do it my self

is that some kind of racist italian comment?

 

No

 

and where's the shotty?