I know your not supposed to have flash hiders in NJ..

 

but how does certain Bushmasters (AR) and other rifles sold in NJ have them??

 

I know my Bushmaster with 14.5" bbl had a welded FHider when I bought it back in 2002 from Brick Armory or SureShot..

 

I assume they are WELDED or PINNED on by either the dealer or the factory..

 

If said A2 Birdcage is Welded/Pinned is it allowed??

 

Chime in..

 

I can buy a brake and PIN it.. but I have a rifle coming in with an A2 (to my PA FFL) and want to know what YOU would do?? Buy a Brake and PIN it... or just pin the A2 and be done??

Flash hiders are not illegal in NJ. They are only illegal if they are accompanied by 1+ more evil features on a semi automatic rifle with a detachable magazine. You can have an unpinned flash hider on your AR if it didnt somehow have the pistol grip, or if it had a fixed magazine. For example, the springfield M1A is allowed to have a flash hider because it has 0 other features.

what he said. =P

@Maksim... no, I was just recalling what I was sold back in 2002..

 

saying a 14.5" Bushmaster could not have had a WELDED Flash Hider on from the factory would also not always be true either though..

 

I was asking opinions of the board as to what I should do.. not what they may or may not have done on there rigs..

 

FWIW..

 

I resolved the issue already.. I ordered the same DPMS Miculek Brake that I currently have on my 308 and just PIN it when it gets here. (like on my 308).

 

figured why tempt fate in the Garden State..

@Maksim... no, I was just recalling what I was sold back in 2002..

 

 

figured why tempt fate in the Garden State..

 

That's a great catchy saying.

 

Why tempt fate, in the Garden State!

I was asking opinions of the board as to what I should do.. not what they may or may not have done on there rigs..

 

I resolved the issue already.. I ordered the same DPMS Miculek Brake that I currently have on my 308 and just PIN it when it gets here. (like on my 308).

What you SHOULD do is have your FFL pin it for you before you take possession of the rifle. If your FFL doesn't offer this service, have the rifle sent to another FFL that will. Otherwise, if you take possession of the rifle, you will be breaking the law. Most FFL's won't even transfer you the rifle in the first place if it's in violation of the AWB, however even if they do....you're still breaking the law.

I know your not supposed to have flash hiders in NJ..

 

but how does certain Bushmasters (AR) and other rifles sold in NJ have them??

 

I know my Bushmaster with 14.5" bbl had a welded FHider when I bought it back in 2002 from Brick Armory or SureShot..

 

I assume they are WELDED or PINNED on by either the dealer or the factory..

 

If said A2 Birdcage is Welded/Pinned is it allowed??

 

Chime in..

 

I can buy a brake and PIN it.. but I have a rifle coming in with an A2 (to my PA FFL) and want to know what YOU would do?? Buy a Brake and PIN it... or just pin the A2 and be done??

 

Also, you have to check if it's called a flash supressor or a muzzle brake. Flash supressor = bad, muzzle brake = okay, NJ = BS.

What you SHOULD do is have your FFL pin it for you before you take possession of the rifle. If your FFL doesn't offer this service, have the rifle sent to another FFL that will. Otherwise, if you take possession of the rifle, you will be breaking the law. Most FFL's won't even transfer you the rifle in the first place if it's in violation of the AWB, however even if they do....you're still breaking the law.

 

@vjf915.. I am a PA resident.. not currently a NJ resident.. I just happen to shoot at Range 14.. hence everytime I get something I make sure I can make it NJ legal/compliant.. such as pinning and mag limits..

 

I used to live in NJ from 1983-2005 so I know the NJ laws are stinky..

 

Back in 2002 I lived in North Brunswick and got a deal thru a fellow NJ forum member from another board.. hence the purchase of the Bushmaster from Southern NJ..

 

I as a NJ resident have bought several rifles/pistols since 1991 when I turned 21..

 

I still keep my old NJFID card in my range bag.. just in case.. figure it can't hurt to have it..

 

 

Regards,

 

Al

@vjf915.. I am a PA resident.. not currently a NJ resident.. I just happen to shoot at Range 14.. hence everytime I get something I make sure I can make it NJ legal/compliant.. such as pinning and mag limits..

My apologies. I don't know if you mentioned that in an introduction post or somewhere else, but I must have missed it. I retract my statement then. Welcome by the way.

"Also, you have to check if it's called a flash supressor or a muzzle brake. Flash supressor = bad, muzzle brake = okay, NJ = BS.

"

+1 on that. Lookup compensators/muzzle brake on Brownells or Midway USA. There are tons that are NJ legal.

@vjf915.. I am a PA resident.. not currently a NJ resident.. I just happen to shoot at Range 14.. hence everytime I get something I make sure I can make it NJ legal/compliant.. such as pinning and mag limits..

 

 

so instead of shooting in PA.. you disable your mags down to 15 rounds and ruin your threaded barrels by welding on brakes? not trying to be rude.. but I dont get that at all..

so instead of shooting in PA.. you disable your mags down to 15 rounds and ruin your threaded barrels by welding on brakes? not trying to be rude.. but I dont get that at all..

 

Well Wicens up in Warminster sucks.. 100 yards.. you have to SIT at a bench under a concrete enclave..

 

Range 14 is 200 yards and much better for standing/bench/prone..

 

I weld/pin my brakes.. and my $8/mags reduced to 15 rounds isn't killing me..

 

and if I do sell the rifles.. some Cali buyers think I'm 'the man'...

 

sold my old DPMS upper a few weeks back for $365.. and new they were on sale at Midway for $370.. so I made out pretty good.. IMHO..

 

you have Saiga rifles correct?? you have to neuter them also.. I've had 3 Saigas and all sold within reason, with pinned brakes and 15 round or less mags..

 

NJ = PAY TO PLAY..

Saigas are already neutered.

Well Wicens up in Warminster sucks.. 100 yards.. you have to SIT at a bench under a concrete enclave..

 

Range 14 is 200 yards and much better for standing/bench/prone..

 

I weld/pin my brakes.. and my $8/mags reduced to 15 rounds isn't killing me..

 

and if I do sell the rifles.. some Cali buyers think I'm 'the man'...

 

sold my old DPMS upper a few weeks back for $365.. and new they were on sale at Midway for $370.. so I made out pretty good.. IMHO..

 

you have Saiga rifles correct?? you have to neuter them also.. I've had 3 Saigas and all sold within reason, with pinned brakes and 15 round or less mags..

 

NJ = PAY TO PLAY..

 

my saigas are in NJ legal configuration because my license says NJ.. the MOMENT that thing says PA the last thing I will ever do is bring any of my guns back to NJ.. in fact I have held off threading my Saigas because I do not want to have to weld the barrels.. once in PA.. threaded they will ALL be.. lol.. it was no dig on you... more curious as to what the hell would posses one to bring guns into enemy territory.. lol

I know your not supposed to have flash hiders in NJ..

 

but how does certain Bushmasters (AR) and other rifles sold in NJ have them??

 

I know my Bushmaster with 14.5" bbl had a welded FHider when I bought it back in 2002 from Brick Armory or SureShot..

 

I assume they are WELDED or PINNED on by either the dealer or the factory..

 

If said A2 Birdcage is Welded/Pinned is it allowed??

 

Chime in..

 

I can buy a brake and PIN it.. but I have a rifle coming in with an A2 (to my PA FFL) and want to know what YOU would do?? Buy a Brake and PIN it... or just pin the A2 and be done??

 

It just looks like a flash hider. i'll bet if you look, the slots the muzzle flash comes out of are not present on the bottom. the slots are also likely wider than real A2 slots by a smidge, and the inside is built differently, and the front is closed off. In which case is is an a2 birdcage COMPENSATOR, and not a flash hider. It's just made to look like one.

did I mention last month (I did in another post(in the pics section) I got the 5M2 Brake for my AR) that I got this resolved and got a brake.. if you look up the last active post was june 12th.. over a month ago..

 

I was debating Cav Comp Brake or YHM Brake.. and went YHM in the end..

I have one of this which is NJ legal out of the box - http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_PCWA3X_14M4IZ.asp

 

Izzy brake is not the same as flash hider. It has to looks but not the function. Correct me if I'm wrong anyone?

BATF classified the Izzy brake as a brake, not a FH. You're all good.