Ok.. I was playing with pricing for 223 ammo for my AR..

 

I added 14 boxes of PMC Bronze for $5.55/box to the cart.. shipping was $18..

 

so then I added 1 box of Silver Bear to the mix to TRY 1 box thru my rifle maybe.. shipping went to $30..

 

so I subtracted 1 box of the PMC figuring that would make the weight difference.. NOPE.. still $30 shipping.. WTF!! I even tried 2 boxes and shipping was still $30..

 

I think CTD is charging more for the foreign ammo shipping.. they figure more people will by the CHEAP Russian ammo.. hence the UPCHARGE on the shipping..

 

I ended up ordering the PMC by itself for $0.34/round for 280 rounds.. which isn't bad for my small buy..

 

lowest other place for it is SGAmmo for $0.352/round for the same amount..

 

Go play with it and mix and match US and FOREIGN ammo and see what happens when you estimate the shipping on the cart page.

 

**this has been a public service announcement.. **

 

Al

What do the item numbers look like? It sounds like you are ordering from 2 different warehouses.

 

One warehouse's items are all numbers and other has letters. To keep shipping down you can try to order from the same warehouse.

 

It sucks overall because you usually can't get rifle and shotgun ammo together, considering that.

All my ammo comes in from 1 box.. not 2..

 

still $12 for 1 box of ammo would be A**nine..

Wow, then I don't know. I stopped using CTD because of their high cost. Cabelas and Midway get by business now.

Last couple of times I tordered .223 was from Natchez on sale. Came quick.

If you don't need the ammo right away, wait and find better deals.

 

I picked up 1000 rounds of Brown bear steel cased .223 from Sportsman's guide for $208.31 (club member price) w/ free shipping (coupon). That's about $.21/round.

 

Also - Palmetto State Armory still has a sale on for Federal XM193F 5.56 and PMC X-Tac 5.56 for $5.89 & $5.79/box respectively - and their shipping is only $12 if you buy up to 1000 rounds.

cheaper Than Dirt was one of the worst price gougers during the Obama ammo shortage. They will never see a dime from me.

I like buying ammo every week.. as I shoot every other week and blow 200+ rounds a week.

 

I have ADHD.. so patience to save for 1000 rounds is not really an option..

 

I was just letting everyone know to watch when they add stuff to there CTD cart and keep checking the shipping est..

 

Al

Save a little bit more, and buy steel cased

Nick, I thought of that too but for a couple of pennies, I can save the brass and re-load it someday if I want. I shot through about 200 rounds of .223 last Sunday and about 500 rounds of .22.

It was more than a couple pennies for me, John - $.21/round of steel .223..... vs $.33/round of brass 5.56. I do save my 5.56 brass, even though I don't reload. I figure I can sell some of it off but not enough to make up for the 12 cent difference in price per shot.

Hmm, my last stuff from Natchez in brass was .29 a rouind, maybe I should try some steel?

Here's the stuff I bought:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/1000-rds-55-gr-fmjbt-223-556x45-mm-ammo.aspx?a=515028

 

I'm a buyer's club member, which is why I get the cheaper price. Even without it, it's $.22/shot. Plus there's coupons for free shipping or $$ off.

For brass, if you scrap it 5.56 brass is about 2 cents/case. If you sell it, you can get upwards up 6 cents/case depending on headstamp/ how segregated it is

been saving my 223 brass also since I don't reload I figured I may be able to sell it..

 

can't run STEEL yet in my AR as I just got it and it didn't like the Wolf MC I had bought 500 rounds of..

 

managed to sell 457 rounds of the the Wolf MC 223 for $92 shipped.. (cost me $9 to ship)..

 

but at least I recouped 90% of the funds..

 

gonna try some Silver Bear as some have had good luck with that vs. the straight steel casings..

 

for now I am stuck with BRASS only..

 

FWIW.. I used to order all my stuff from the SGuide.. (especially with FREE shipping &/or coupons )

 

at $5.50-$6.20/box in small qty for 223/5.56 in BRASS, I can't complain as my 308 ammo even with Steel (which it likes) is still over $0.42/round..

 

Post was mainly to point out how CTD apparantly has a system in place..

 

 

Al

I started using Steel in my AR with about 500 rounds through - maybe it was just the wolf ammo? If we hit up the range at the same time, I'll let you try some of my Brown Bear steel cased.

Thanks, seems some of the policies and shipping fees from CTD (especially when ammo was scarce) has left a bad taste in the mouth's of a lot of people who will not deal with them anymore.

I didn't know Eugene Stoner designed the AR for steel cased ammo...

I didn't know Eugene Stoner designed the AR for steel cased ammo...

Here we go..... :thsmiley_deadhorse:

Steel cased stuff is fine for most guns.... but there was a good article about the bullets themselves, being steel core in alot of cases, and the jacket being very very weak. When recovered, they found that alot of the ammo was loosing its jacket and you had steel going down your barrel.

 

Spend a tad more and buy PMC brass.

Or reload for 0.18 cts per round...

I didn't know Eugene Stoner designed the AR for steel cased ammo...

 

Well, his name sure explains alot

 

 

.... but there was a good article about the bullets themselves, being steel core in alot of cases, and the jacket being very very weak. When recovered, they found that alot of the ammo was loosing its jacket and you had steel going down your barrel.

 

Perhaps its terminal effect is losing its jacket but in the barrel I can assure you its not shedding the jacket. The mild steel copper washed jackets are actually stronger than just copper. Also, none of the russian import ammo is steel core. And, if it was, a single seperated steel core bouncing down your barrel would trash it. Finding seperated jackets and saying the bullet is seperating in the bore is stupid. Its like saying "OMG I FOUND MY HOLLOW POINT EXPANDED, IT MUST HAVE DONE THAT IN THE BARREL!!1!!1!!one!!!!1" derp derp

 

Every case I've read about in regards to a jackets seperating in a rifle results in the jacket staying in the bore and the gun going kaboom. Another reason that someones claim of them seperating regularly is silly. Another internet myth...