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Dem's on the *hitlist

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Here's a *hitlist created by the good folks over at Blue Jersey, of all the Dem's who voted in favor of Christie's Union Reform Bill.

Assembly:

 

John Burzichelli (District 3, Paulsboro - Deputy Speaker)

 

Herb Conaway Jr. (District 7, Delanco)

 

Jack Conners (District 7, Pennsauken - Deputy Speaker)

 

Albert Coutinho (District 29, Newark)

 

Angel Fuentes (District 5, Camden)

 

Louis Greenwald (District 6, Vorhees - Budget Chair)

 

Pamela R. Lampitt (District 6, Vorhees)

 

Matthew Milam (District 1, Vineland)

 

Paul D. Moriarty (District 4, Washington Twp.)

 

Sheila Y. Oliver (District 34, East Orange - Assembly Speaker)

 

Celeste Riley (District 3, Bridgeton - a teacher!)

 

Kevin J. Ryan (District 36, Nutley)

 

L. Grace Spencer (District 29, Newark - Deputy Speaker)

 

Gilbert L. "Whip" Wilson (District 5 - Camden)

 

Senate:

 

Jim Beach - (District 6, Vorhees)

 

Fred Madden - (District 4, Washington Township - a cop!)

 

Donald Norcross - (District 5, Camden)

 

Teresa Ruiz - (District 29, Newark)

 

Brian Stack - (District 33, Union City)

 

Steve Sweeney - (District 3, West Deptford, Senate President)

 

Jeff Van Drew - (District 1, Dennis Township)

 

Jim Whelan - (District 2, Atlantic City)

 

While Sweeney and Van Drew may be the only gun friendly people on that list, what about the others? I see Fred *One Gun a Month* Madden on the list, and he needs to get pinkslipped.

 

Any of these people in your district? Might be a chance to vote them out. I have a feeling Blue Jersey will be doing the their darndest to stoke the flames of discontent over the next few months.....

I'm in Sheila Oliver's district. I've written her a few times about our 2A rights, with no response.

 

I have no problem voting against her.

Few towns near me, that is Washington Twp, and Voorhees, but none in my district per se. Just for my own edification, was the union reform bill the thing to weaken the teachers unions and stuff? And how does any of this affect our 2A? I might just be confused. haha.

Here's a *hitlist created by the good folks over at Blue Jersey, of all the Dem's who voted in favor of Christie's Union Reform Bill.

Assembly:

 

John Burzichelli (District 3, Paulsboro - Deputy Speaker)

 

Celeste Riley (District 3, Bridgeton - a teacher!)

 

 

Senate:

 

Steve Sweeney - (District 3, West Deptford, Senate President)

 

While Sweeney and Van Drew may be the only gun friendly people on that list, what about the others? I see Fred *One Gun a Month* Madden on the list, and he needs to get pinkslipped.

 

Any of these people in your district? Might be a chance to vote them out. I have a feeling Blue Jersey will be doing the their darndest to stoke the flames of discontent over the next few months.....

 

These are my reps... However, all of them have been fairly solid on 2A issues (like Van Drew). That's not to say that R's wouldn't be better than D's in D-3, but if any of them do get re-elected, it won't be a step backward, even if it's not a step forward.

 

The good news is, we have a few common enemies on that list. Greenwald put up that magazine capacity limit bill not too long ago. Madden, like you've already said. And I'm sure Oliver isn't 2A friendly.

Funny. If you go to Greenwalds Facebook page those people are ripping him a new one. You have to read his Facebook page!!!!!!!!!

https://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/lougreenwald

 

A couple brief samples from his page:

 

 

"Mr Greenwald, remember on March 3, 2011 when you spoke to the over 15000 Poilce and Firefighters that rallied in Trenton for Collective Bargaining Rights! You came out and spoke in support of us and our cause."

 

"How do you sleep at night? You just killed over a 500,000 families in this state who will now have to decide to pay their property taxes or have health insurance. You have now increased the number of kids that won't be able to afford to go to college, families that will lose their houses to foreclosures and individuals who can't afford your health care proposal so will have to go without health care. All for what??? A partnership with the rich? Unreal."

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Might I suggest a change of thread title? I read it as hitlist.

 

 

The *s* was dropped, as in shhhh hitlist.

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Few towns near me, that is Washington Twp, and Voorhees, but none in my district per se. Just for my own edification, was the union reform bill the thing to weaken the teachers unions and stuff? And how does any of this affect our 2A? I might just be confused. haha.

 

Because there are many people on that shhhh hitlist that are anti gun. This could be chance to unseat them. People are so damn pissed about the union reform, they'll vote them all out. Maybe.

Because there are many people on that shhhh hitlist that are anti gun. This could be chance to unseat them. People are so damn pissed about the union reform, they'll vote them all out. Maybe.

 

The strategy then would be to get out to the moderate voters not in the 2A community, and push the message that these folks are anti-union. It would just so happen to coincide with our interests. But glad you posted this. Odds are, none of these folks would have gotten my vote anyway, but it's still good information to have. Do you know anything about where we SHOULD cast our votes though, at least in regards to 2A?

The problem is most of these politicians are in solid Dem areas. The pissed off union members aren't going to vote Republican, and if they just stay home the Dems are likely to get reelected anyway by all the other brain dead voters in those districts. The Democrats knew exactly what they were doing.

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The strategy then would be to get out to the moderate voters not in the 2A community, and push the message that these folks are anti-union. It would just so happen to coincide with our interests. But glad you posted this. Odds are, none of these folks would have gotten my vote anyway, but it's still good information to have. Do you know anything about where we SHOULD cast our votes though, at least in regards to 2A?

 

The strategy would be to say they're against *civil rights*. People view pensions and healthcare, and collective bargaining as *civil rights*, so that's how we would have to work. Not to get caught up in 2A issues of themselves, cause that will be D.O.A.

 

But the hard thing would be to find out if their opponents would be friendly to the 2A. Then again, attacking anti gunners as being against *civil rights*, as mentioned above, could be fun in it's own right......LOL...

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The problem is most of these politicians are in solid Dem areas. The pissed off union members aren't going to vote Republican, and if they just stay home the Dems are likely to get reelected anyway by all the other brain dead voters in those districts. The Democrats knew exactly what they were doing.

 

The majority of those Dem's are entrenched. So entrenched, there will never be any alternative until they retire. So it's funny that they can do anything they want.

I think claiming 2A as a civil right, and such, would be an interesting way to do it. Either it will work, or it'll at least get people to shut up about stuff like how the government owes them ice cream and handies because it's a civil right. I mean, my personal political beliefs are that if it's in the constitution, it's your right. Of course, unlike a lot of people on both sides, I don't pick and choose. I'm pro 2A, but I'm against abortion, but both probably are protected (the latter being under the 9th amendment I believe)

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I think claiming 2A as a civil right

 

That's the key.

 

The 2A is a civil right.

 

You'll be kicking out anti's for being against civil rights.

 

The only way to work it in NJ, is to leave the 2A out of it.

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