Ok, I've already searched the pinned "New Jersey Firearms Law" (http://www.nraila.org/statelawpdfs/NJSL.pdf) topic and http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf/firearms/062408_title13ch54.pdf but did not get an answer. I've heard that loaded magazines EVEN if they are not in the gun is considered illegal. I don't see that anywhere on paper either.

 

The question is - Pistol is inside a holster as opposed to OEM gun box, unloaded, all extra magazines unloaded, box of ammo in a separate pocket but all in same range bag and transported in my locked trunk ...... Is that legal?

 

The obvious action is get a bigger range bag so I can fit the gun case but I'd rather not spend another $80 if its not necessary.

LEGAL, and overkill

Although most people say loaded mags are legal, I have 'heard' stories about police giving people a hard time.

 

As for me, I don't feel like getting that rookie who thinks loaded mags are illegal, so I just simply load them at the range. I mean hell, with a loader, it only takes 2mins to load a bunch of mags so it's really not inconvenient for me.

Although most people say loaded mags are legal, I have 'heard' stories about police giving people a hard time.

 

As for me, I don't feel like getting that rookie who thinks loaded mags are illegal, so I just simply load them at the range. I mean hell, with a loader, it only takes 2mins to load a bunch of mags so it's really not inconvenient for me.

 

you use a loader? why? anyway the first time I went to the range I had loaded mags, the range officer said that's a big no, no....

Can somebody show me the statue where it says that the ammunition must be separate from the firearm?

Hello All,

 

I just sent Nappen an email regarding ammo separate from firearm and transporting loaded magazines. I will post his responses asap. I went to a pro 2A meet a few years ago and Nappen told of a loaded magazine case in NJ that did not turn out well. I remember him saying that the NJ laws consider a loaded magazine without the presence of a firearm to be a loaded gun! He also said the same rule did NOT apply to speed loaders or speed strips! Only in NJ. I will post the info as soon as I get it.

Hello All,

 

I just sent Nappen an email regarding ammo separate from firearm and transporting loaded magazines. I will post his responses asap. I went to a pro 2A meet a few years ago and Nappen told of a loaded magazine case in NJ that did not turn out well. I remember him saying that the NJ laws consider a loaded magazine without the presence of a firearm to be a loaded gun! He also said the same rule did NOT apply to speed loaders or speed strips! Only in NJ. I will post the info as soon as I get it.

I have had the same conversation with Evan. The way the laws are written in NJ (the existing gray area and the way they are interpretted) and the chance of running into an uninformed LEO, I would rather error on the side of caution. It may be overkill but if you follow the law of safe passage, you cant go wrong.

 

Look at safe passage provision

I remember him saying that the NJ laws consider a loaded magazine without the presence of a firearm to be a loaded gun!

 

That's not codified anywhere, so if he says that is true, he needs to provide some case detail where precedents were set.

I have had the same conversation with Evan. The way the laws are written in NJ (the existing gray area and the way they are interpretted) and the chance of running into an uninformed LEO, I would rather error on the side of caution. It may be overkill but if you follow the law of safe passage, you cant go wrong.

 

Look at safe passage provision

 

 

FOPA doesn't require separation either.

 

§ 926A. Interstate transportation of firearms

 

Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

This IS NJ.....

 

Just do what Cameron & Anthony say to do and keep your a$$ out of trouble, instead of lookin' for it (trouble) all macho behind a keyboard!

This IS NJ.....

 

Just do what Cameron & Anthony say to do and keep your a$$ out of trouble, instead of lookin' for it (trouble) all macho behind a keyboard!

 

You lost me there.

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your better off playing it safe taking the extra steps, than running into an uninformed officer, just dont give them an excuse...

you know.. I heard once that to be legal.. you had to remove all firing pins prior to transporting guns...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a crew cab pick up, no cap. When I travel to the range I have my rifle(s) on the floor in the back seat area with them locked in the carry case. I keep the ammo in a locked box on the passenger floor. No ammo in the magazines. Targets in the bed of the truck. Legal?

I have a crew cab pick up, no cap. When I travel to the range I have my rifle(s) on the floor in the back seat area with them locked in the carry case. I keep the ammo in a locked box on the passenger floor. No ammo in the magazines. Targets in the bed of the truck. Legal?

 

 

IMO you are satisfying the law..

It seems a whole lot easier to just put everything in one bag/case, with magazines already loaded, and simply not a) get pulled over, or b) let anybody search your crap then to take all these extra futile steps. If you are getting your stuff searched you probably messed up, and the fact that your ammo is in a separate bag or whatnot probably isn't going to matter. Paranoia seems to be running rampant...

It seems a whole lot easier to just put everything in one bag/case, with magazines already loaded, and simply not a) get pulled over, or b) let anybody search your crap then to take all these extra futile steps. If you are getting your stuff searched you probably messed up, and the fact that your ammo is in a separate bag or whatnot probably isn't going to matter. Paranoia seems to be running rampant...

 

 

to be clear I find unloading mags and locking up ammo to be as ridiculous as you do.. I was simply answering the question as it was asked..

 

I dont know that it even matters if you are pulled over OR searched.. because I am not convinced in ANY capacity that mags have to be unloaded OR that ammunition has to be locked up..

I'm only trying to find out that I'm transporting legal. I find it ridiculos the NJ firearm laws compared to other states, but if its the law, thats what I have to do.

It seems a whole lot easier to just put everything in one bag/case, with magazines already loaded, and simply not a) get pulled over, or b) let anybody search your crap then to take all these extra futile steps. If you are getting your stuff searched you probably messed up, and the fact that your ammo is in a separate bag or whatnot probably isn't going to matter. Paranoia seems to be running rampant...

What if you get into an accident? Lets say you're injured and need medical attention. Through no fault of your own, now your vehicle is towed and you have first responders searching your vehicle... and now they find your loaded mags, unlocked gun case, ammunition stored in the same container as the gun, etc. Call me paraniod but IMHO, an ounce of prevention is worth the ton of cure your going to need to get you through the legal nightmare you could face.