If I have to get a drug test, finger printed, and have a background check done to make $12 an hour.....AND contribute to the pot that pays for welfare, I don't think it's unfair to ask the same of those who are TAKING from the pot.

 

Yup

If I have to get a drug test, finger printed, and have a background check done to make $12 an hour.....AND contribute to the pot that pays for welfare, I don't think it's unfair to ask the same of those who are TAKING from the pot.

 

Exactly!

 

I was not crying and carrying on when I had to get finger printed and a backgroud check to keep my job! I think the people who b!tch the loudest about taking a drug test are the people who would not pass one. There, I said it! (flame suit on) =@

I'll do you one better. I am against all FORCED charity, i.e. taxes to support government assistance.

 

My views on charity are very simple. I do not consider it a major virtue and, above all, I do not consider it a moral duty. There is nothing wrong in helping other people, if and when they are worthy of the help and you can afford to help them. I regard charity as a marginal issue. What I am fighting is the idea that charity is a moral duty and a primary virtue.

- Ayn Rand

Exactly!

 

I was not crying and carrying on when I had to get finger printed and a backgroud check to keep my job! I think the people who b!tch the loudest about taking a drug test are the people who would not pass one. There, I said it! (flame suit on) =@

Couldn't agree with you more. I think "Government assistance" is a huge crock of you know what. Let's face it, do you think one of these politicians care about the poverty line? It helps them get votes. I'll be ecstatic if it's ever done away with, which will happen around the same time as pigs fly and we get civilian carry here in NJ. I couldn't agree more with Paul either. I don't think there's anything wrong with helping people, but do a freakin' collection for it. Don't take it out of my paycheck when I'm WORKING for my money.

I am all for the helping hand of welfare to help people get off drugs. It makes perfect sense. Any full time position I have accepted had me taking a drug test. Anyone on welfare should be expecting to get off welfare. You can't get hired if you fail the employers' drug test so why not start now?

 

But lets be real here, the money saved is going to go to putting them through rehab.

I've had to take drug tests, get fingerprinted and submit to background checks numerous times in my life in order to get employment. If it's OK for me to go through that, its OK for welfare recipients.

I dont think it would snowball. You have to drug test to get a job with the govt and get a paycheck, why shouldnt you have to drug test to not have a job and get a paycheck from the govt? Its not an invasion of privacy/forced testing, if you dont want to get tested dont go looking for welfare. Same with jobs. If you dont want to get drug tested dont apply at a company that drug tests.

 

I was going to say something like this, but I don't think I could have said it as well. Thank you.

Still doesn't account for all the alcoholic tobacco smokers. I'm for this, because i know they will not change anything else in regards to the welfare system. If they wanted to find a way to make it more efficient then i dont think we would have to resort to making people take drug tests.

I am drug tested for the money I earn so I dont see how its unfair to drug test to get it. I am fully in support of this. Its not that hard to live life without drugs people. Two of my friends are DYFS case workers and the hard core addicts use none of their assistance money on their family or kids. Drug abuse runs rampant in my family and any money they can get for free goes 100% into their habit. Addicts dont like to work for their money.

Ken