July 29, 201115 yr http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/crime.aspx?id=184 The following states have entered into formal written reciprocity agreements with Pennsylvania under section 6109(k) of the Uniform Firearms Act. These agreements provide for reciprocal recognition of valid licenses/permits issued by both states. Recognition in Pennsylvania is based on the individual's issuance of a valid license/permit by the reciprocal contracting state, and not on the license/permit holder's place of residence.
July 29, 201115 yr it was rumored that our permits from fl werent valid in pa due to the fact that we didnt live in florida.
July 29, 201115 yr it was rumored that our permits from fl werent valid in pa due to the fact that we didnt live in florida. That was more than two years ago - for that matter it was Corbett who wrote the quoted clarification, in his, then, capacity of AG under Fast Eddy Rendell. Maybe you're confusing this with the recently passed (illegal) Philly Ordinance to close the "Florida Loophole". If that is the case, it was discussed here, start with Post #7 http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/24475-ut-and-fl-ccw-class-may-22-2011/ HTH Adios, Pizza Bob
July 29, 201115 yr it was rumored that our permits from fl werent valid in pa due to the fact that we didnt live in florida. Well, it's not true and never was. No matter what laws Philly thinks they can pass, none of them matter. I would CC in Philly on an out of state license anyway. So your chances of getting a shakedown are pretty low and if it happens it will end at the first judge you meet in my layman's opinion.
July 30, 201115 yr Author the reason I posted the letter is many of us carry in philly and figured it could not hurt to have a copy of that specific letter from the stats on web page..
July 30, 201115 yr Author Well, it's not true and never was. No matter what laws Philly thinks they can pass, none of them matter. I would CC in Philly on an out of state license anyway. So your chances of getting a shakedown are pretty low and if it happens it will end at the first judge you meet in my layman's opinion. I agree... law is the law... where I went tonight required me to pass through security and notify them that I was carrying a weapon.. so with that said being able to show them that I was in the right was the real reason I looked it up.. I didn't know what kind of people I would be dealing with.. where I was headed.. so I just printed this out and stuck it in my pocket on the off chance someone was out of the loop...
July 31, 201115 yr The guy that runs handgunlaw.us (Gary Slider) and a couple others and myself engaged in a campaign of communications with Florida Div. of Ag and PA's AG (Tom Corbett) at the time, to request that PA clarify their position on this reciprocal CCW matter with us here in NJ who may possess a valid FL-CCW. I still have the emails and the FL Div of Ag. (Ken Wilkinson) was very helpful to us. I thank both states for their kind cooperation and now Gov. Tom Corbett for the clarification.
July 31, 201115 yr The guy that runs handgunlaw.us and a couple others and myself engaged in a campaign of communications with Florida Div. of Ag and PA's AG (Tom Corbett) at the time, to request that PA clarify their position on this reciprocal CCW matter with us here in NJ who may possess a valid FL-CCW. I still have the emails and the FL Div of Ag. (Ken Wilkinson) was very helpful to us. I thank both states for their kind cooperation and now Gov. Tom Corbett for the clarification. Well, no clarification is required on that. The law is the law. But I appreciate you boogering them with that. But, you do bring up a good point. So, I want to help. I have just finished drafting letters to Chris Chistie, NJ AG Paula Dow, and a person I have previously corresponded with at the ATF to see what they think about FOPA covering NJ residents with handguns in their cars in their home state for the purpose of crossing state lines. Is there anybody that can host it so I can get feedback from the forum before I send it out? I could copy and paste it, but there's bullets and formatting and such so it will be messed up. I get up pretty early tomorrow and will ship it out before the sun comes up. Probably just simpler to post your ideas so I can read them in the morning before I send it out.
August 7, 201115 yr Well, no clarification is required on that. The law is the law. But I appreciate you boogering them with that. But, you do bring up a good point. So, I want to help. I have just finished drafting letters to Chris Chistie, NJ AG Paula Dow, and a person I have previously corresponded with at the ATF to see what they think about FOPA covering NJ residents with handguns in their cars in their home state for the purpose of crossing state lines. Is there anybody that can host it so I can get feedback from the forum before I send it out? I could copy and paste it, but there's bullets and formatting and such so it will be messed up. I get up pretty early tomorrow and will ship it out before the sun comes up. Probably just simpler to post your ideas so I can read them in the morning before I send it out. Did you get these out? Suppose it's still too soon for any responses?
August 7, 201115 yr Did you get these out? Suppose it's still too soon for any responses? That's exactly what I want to do. Poke the ATF so they can unilaterally shut down transport out of NJ under FOPA. Just to screw my friends in Jersey once and for all on this issue. That's what letters to the ATF get you. No, obviously I did not, and I thought it was obvious I had no plans to. The law in PA is that licenses from reciprocal states are honored. There is no question about this. Maybe if you poke around enough and really, really try to find a loophole to make it illegal for yourselves you can manage to screw yourselves by getting some AAG or regulator to give an official opinion that is contrary to the law and shuts down your licenses in PA. I know it's your a** and not mine, but I still wish you no luck in those endeavors. The law is clear. If you want it changed, so that you can't carry in PA on your non-resident licenses, it might be more effective to lobby for a change in the law than to pick at and pick at AGs and DAGs and regulators and Governors until they finally say, "OK! OK! Enough! I don't know. It's illegal, OK? Happy now? I'll post public notice on Monday of our opinion and instruct LE and local AGs to enforce our opinion."
August 8, 201115 yr That's exactly what I want to do. Poke the ATF so they can unilaterally shut down transport out of NJ under FOPA. Just to screw my friends in Jersey once and for all on this issue. That's what letters to the ATF get you. No, obviously I did not, and I thought it was obvious I had no plans to. I didn't see the sarcasm in your previous post and nearly went postal on you. Thanks for clarifying that ASKING anyone anything in NJ results in a letter from Attorney General Ben Dover.
August 8, 201115 yr I didn't see the sarcasm in your previous post and nearly went postal on you. Thanks for clarifying that ASKING anyone anything in NJ results in a letter from Attorney General Ben Dover. It was complete sarcasm, I'm sorry I wasn't more clear. In America, you come to learn, there are stupid questions when asked of people that have infinite authority and don't like you. Find other people to answer your questions or fix your problems by circumventing those devils.
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