I work for a large international organization that has a strict HR policy to not provide character references. They will only provide confirmation of employment. They have provided me with an information sheet that I can pass on to any reference checker with details on how to confirm my current employment (it is a phone number where the reference checker enters my my employee id and receives an automated response).

 

How much of an issue will this be for my FID? I am applying for a FID and 3PPs. I am worried that the local PD may contact my employer who would either not respond or respond with stating they don't provide character references.

 

I can see my options as:

 

a) provide the local PD my employer contact details and trust to luck they don't request a character reference

b) let the local PD know when I apply that my employer doesn't provide character references and provide them with the information sheet on how to confirm my employment.

c) provide a specific contact name at my employer for them to contact who would agree to provide the reference**

 

**c) is likely an issue if I provide my boss's contact details as my boss is actually based in the UK. I could use a colleague as a contact who is also a Director although they are not actually my boss.

 

Any recommendations, suggestions or help?

 

thanks

 

TheWombat

Not all towns contact employers however they are looking just to verify employment not get information about you so the job verification line should be fine.

 

Harry

The employer info on the STS-033 is for your local PD to confirm employment ONLY - nothing more. If your PD insists on using them as a character reference they are going outside the scope of their authority. If that is the case you can contact the NJSP Firearms Unit and they will call your loacl PD and straighten them out. Don't worry, you're good.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Hi,

 

1st of all they should not be contacting the employer at all for a reference only to verify employment.

 

I also work for a large multinational corp with strict HR policies about character references.

 

My township detective only gave a quick ring via the phone looking for me via the receptionist so he can verify i work there.

I put down that Im a student and my local Pd, They never called my school (you would think they would) the only character references are the 2 they request. You will be fine just put down the number to any supervisor

I am self-employed and almost denied myself.........

 

But seriously, what difference does it make if you work or not? Do all towns send employers this form? I know mine does. Is it the employers right to know an employee wishes to purchase firearms? What if the employee leaves that job for another, does the next employer need to be informed about the ownership of firearms? This is getting really rediculous living in this state!

 

I do not understand the purpose of that form whatsoever.

 

As a side note: I went to Cabells today with my wife and could not belive what we saw. Besides a beautiful store, sorta like walking through a museum, they had ALL their ammo sitting on shelves to be purchased. No ID needed at all, just pick it up and go to the register. No one writing-down your FID # in a book for handgun ammo. No one escorting you to a register with shotgun ammo. Had to have over 100 long guns on display to be held, only rule was you needed to be 18 or older, no store employee needed to hand them to you. New stuff behind the counter would be handed to you by an employee. Must have had 10 people working behind that counter today. Amazing what the rest of the "free country" takes for granted everyday.

I am self-employed and almost denied myself.........

 

But seriously, what difference does it make if you work or not? Do all towns send employers this form? I know mine does. Is it the employers right to know an employee wishes to purchase firearms? What if the employee leaves that job for another, does the next employer need to be informed about the ownership of firearms? This is getting really rediculous living in this state!

 

I do not understand the purpose of that form whatsoever.

 

As a side note: I went to Cabells today with my wife and could not belive what we saw. Besides a beautiful store, sorta like walking through a museum, they had ALL their ammo sitting on shelves to be purchased. No ID needed at all, just pick it up and go to the register. No one writing-down your FID # in a book for handgun ammo. No one escorting you to a register with shotgun ammo. Had to have over 100 long guns on display to be held, only rule was you needed to be 18 or older, no store employee needed to hand them to you. New stuff behind the counter would be handed to you by an employee. Must have had 10 people working behind that counter today. Amazing what the rest of the "free country" takes for granted everyday.

 

They are asking of you are employed, You give them an Answer, they then check to see if that answer is truthful or not. You would be surprised how many people lie about REALLY Stupid crap and get denied.

thank you all for the quick responses.

 

TheWombat

My form was much more than "Are you employed". It was practically a third reference. Had several questions to fill-out, not a verification of employment at-all. Well, maybe sorta, simply because they sent this reference form to the employer which alone shows employment, but that is not what they were after.

My form was much more than "Are you employed". It was practically a third reference. Had several questions to fill-out, not a verification of employment at-all. Well, maybe sorta, simply because they sent this reference form to the employer which alone shows employment, but that is not what they were after.

 

If you have a copy of it still or if not the next time you get one you might want to make a copy of it and send it off the NJ2AS.

 

I can't believe they are asking more than a verification of employment, I hope I don't get one, I would any yes to employment but not answer any other questions and state why I won't and can't.

 

Harry

I am pretty sure I sent a copy of it to Pizza Bob to add to his on-going collection efforts.

I am pretty sure I sent a copy of it to Pizza Bob to add to his on-going collection efforts.

 

I believe that you did. I also share with the NJ2AS and they with me, so we have all the bases covered. Thanks.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

I've always assumed that the employment block was for the employees of security companies who are getting an FID so they can be an armed guard. But since it doesn't specific 'security' or 'Detective Agency' on the form, towns just assume that they need the employer's information whether the FID is employment-related or not.