Been hearing rumors about a gun store to open up here in lil ole Midland Pk and just read it probably gonna happen BUT- for LEOs only. Long time lawyer and a local cop are partnering up to market "discounted" guns, no ammo, to fellow LEOs. Oh well, good for them, so if your a local LEO stay tuned.

5min from my house, what bullsh*t!! the LEO's are always getting discounts (coffee, guns, ammo, car insur, mortgages, etc) ....WTF!

Is the "LEO only" market in NJ big enough to keep a store going?

Is the "LEO only" market in NJ big enough to keep a store going?

I wouldn't think so. Maybe it's a local version of operation gunwalker? You know, sell guns to criminals so gun crimes rise and they can pass more gun laws.

Is the "LEO only" market in NJ big enough to keep a store going?

Good question but around here in Brgn Cnty we have population saturation and each town has whatever number of cops. Pretty sure it wont be an actuall dedicated storefront but an appendage of the lawyers existing small house-type office.Maybe a place-your-order, no showroom facility for guys who know what they want. I'm thinking part time hobby/business write-off for starters. Interesting note- the partnering cop is the son of MP Chief but works in Ridgewood. I'm hoping at least they will offer FFL transfers to the public.

 

EDIT- def not a storefront business, by app't.

5min from my house, what bullsh*t!! the LEO's are always getting discounts (coffee, guns, ammo, car insur, mortgages, etc) ....WTF!

 

You forgot donuts!

5 min from my house too. Oh well.

I live two towns over. The police here are all about connections.So if there told to buy there they will buy there.

Sounds like nothing more then a tax write off or a buisness set up for some sort of advantage zoning,tax,free something. I follow the old adage that if it does not make sence follow the money.

lawmen supply use to be that way, if you show them your fid they let you in..

Is the "LEO only" market in NJ big enough to keep a store going?

 

 

Lawmen's Supply closed up their store in Patterson due to, for one thing, a slow market. Walk-in LEO shops generally are not competitive on filling larger department orders.

The problem for that business model is simply that from my experience most Officers arent shooters....

You talking about this place?

 

http://www.guncleaners.com/contact/contact.html

 

They've been there a while. They do transfers and sell firearms to anyone with money. They also sell a lot of exLEO guns for pennies. Just don't be a douche and they'll be perfectly pleasant to deal with.

You talking about this place?

 

http://www.guncleaners.com/contact/contact.html

 

They've been there a while. They do transfers and sell firearms to anyone with money. They also sell a lot of exLEO guns for pennies. Just don't be a douche and they'll be perfectly pleasant to deal with.

 

 

No.

If they discount firearms to LEO's and only sell to LEO's how do they plan to cover overhead let alone make profit? Most places that discount LEO's are able to do so because they have average joe doing business with them... I'm mean unless they plan on buying glock's in bulk. Do manufactures give discounts to places like these?

If they discount firearms to LEO's and only sell to LEO's how do they plan to cover overhead let alone make profit? Most places that discount LEO's are able to do so because they have average joe doing business with them... I'm mean unless they plan on buying glock's in bulk. Do manufactures give discounts to places like these?

 

I don't know the markup on guns, while there is some I didn't really thing it was a huge money maker, let alone at the discounted LEO pricing.

 

Harry

I dont think there's gonna be much overhead. Their operations will be in a room in the existing building/office of the lawyer partner. The firearms will be on a per app't/order basis so no inventory stocking there. Insurence? What other big ticket overhead costs are there? One guy being a lawyer they should pretty much be able to take care of themselves. But I do wonder how much of an actuall market there is/will be to LEOS only. How often does a cop purchase a gun if he's not an active shooter off the job.I think the whole thing has more to do with financial write-off advantages and trying to take care of there fellows than actually making a big profit.Sounds like ita gonna be a disreet little operation and if you didnt know of its existence you dont need to know.

I don't know the markup on guns, while there is some I didn't really thing it was a huge money maker, let alone at the discounted LEO pricing.

 

Harry

 

That's exactly what i was thinking. The only way i see it working is if they get good pricing to begin with to pass along to the LEO's. Most places that get the good pricing tho are online retailers who sell massive quantities, like buds. They seem to have a network of distributors and act more of a middle man then a retailer.

I dont think there's gonna be much overhead. Their operations will be in a room in the existing building/office of the lawyer partner. The firearms will be on a per app't/order basis so no inventory stocking there. Insurence? What other big ticket overhead costs are there? One guy being a lawyer they should pretty much be able to take care of themselves. But I do wonder how much of an actuall market there is/will be to LEOS only. How often does a cop purchase a gun if he's not an active shooter off the job.I think the whole thing has more to do with financial write-off advantages and trying to take care of there fellows than actually making a big profit.Sounds like ita gonna be a disreet little operation and if you didnt know of its existence you dont need to know.

That would be very stupid to have the FFL in the office of the lawyer, as the Fbi/ATF have unlimited access to the location. The same building is fine, however, the area is expensive to rent space in. There is no point putting in all the time and effort unless your making money. Unless they have some affiliation with another LEO discount dealer i don't see how they can even not loose money. One of the worst business practices is having no inventory, people dont want to have to wait, and its very hard to get discounts on a one item order. There best bet is to find out what the LEO's use in the area and stock up, the more you buy from distributors the better pricing you get.

 

Now that i see there is a place in Wyckoff, which i NEVER KNEW WAS THERE!!! HOLY A i need to check that place out, makes it even harder. I see the place in Wyckoff carries a ton of inventory and a class III License.

I hear ya, it doesnt make sense to me but its what i was hearing and later read(so it must be true!). Whatever, its not gonna concern me. As for that other place in Wyckoff I dont think its an actuall walk up shop with guns on display (I may be wrong) but is a distributer for hi tech gun cleaning apperatus who also dabbles with gun sales. It certainly is in a very out of the way, discreet location being at the end of a little residential desd end street, no where near any other stores or foot traffic. About as out of public veiw as you can get around here. He does do transfers and a few yrs back he was priced a little high for that(IMO) so I went down the street 10 mins and saved a $20 bill and haven't looked back on that place.

I hear ya, it doesnt make sense to me but its what i was hearing and later read(so it must be true!). Whatever, its not gonna concern me. As for that other place in Wyckoff I dont think its an actuall walk up shop with guns on display (I may be wrong) but is a distributer for hi tech gun cleaning apperatus who also dabbles with gun sales. It certainly is in a very out of the way, discreet location being at the end of a little residential desd end street, no where near any other stores or foot traffic. About as out of public veiw as you can get around here. He does do transfers and a few yrs back he was priced a little high for that(IMO) so I went down the street 10 mins and saved a $20 bill and haven't looked back on that place.

 

I read on AR-15.com that he carries a lot of gear and that they specialize in sonic cleaning gear, but they carry a lot of class III weapons for LEO, not sure if they have civilian models. they also have a mini range in there for demo's. 37bucks for a trasnfer including nics back in 07 is pretty good, basically 20 bucks for a transfer. The location is pretty good for wyckoff. There are a ton of store fronts in that area, they just seem to be located on one of the streets that doesnt connect to the rest of the businesses located behind goffle rd. I'm gonna check it out one of these days and ill let you know whats in there.

 

I'm sure these guys have some business plan set up, they must if they are serious about it, so i'm sure there is something we're over looking. Add a lawyer into the equation and you know they are taking all the loose ends into consideration.

Got a transfer coming thru this Police Products place in Wyckoff soon so maybe I'll get to see what this place is about. $40 cash total, not too shabby.

So I did transfer thru this place and its pretty much what I thought it was(wasn't). Yea he does sell a few used guns but its not really a shop per say. Mostly its a side to his main sqeeze which is doing the gun cleaning with the hi tech cleaner thingys. Small room with a token display of handguns and a few small racks of random long guns.Talked a bit about what he does and more or less said selling is not what he's about, short and sweet transfers are fine but "shoppers" actually interfere with his cleaning business but he is an all around gun guy,avid shooter,collectoer etc. Does not work on guns, I asked little things like pinning mags, cutting off bayo lugs,no. Nice guy and also said something about having another place in PA.You probably can call to come look but dont excpect rows upon rows of displays. BTW, closed on Sats so transfers can be tough on the 9-5 guys.

So I did transfer thru this place and its pretty much what I thought it was(wasn't). Yea he does sell a few used guns but its not really a shop per say. Mostly its a side to his main sqeeze which is doing the gun cleaning with the hi tech cleaner thingys. Small room with a token display of handguns and a few small racks of random long guns.Talked a bit about what he does and more or less said selling is not what he's about, short and sweet transfers are fine but "shoppers" actually interfere with his cleaning business but he is an all around gun guy,avid shooter,collectoer etc. Does not work on guns, I asked little things like pinning mags, cutting off bayo lugs,no. Nice guy and also said something about having another place in PA.You probably can call to come look but dont excpect rows upon rows of displays. BTW, closed on Sats so transfers can be tough on the 9-5 guys.

+1 on Police Products if you live in northeast New Jersey. The wife (newly joined member "Pistol Packing Mommy") and I just transferred in two pistols, $40 each, for transfer and NICS. I don't know about prices where you all are at, but around here that's pretty darn good. Greg is a great guy to talk with, and yes his primary business is cleaning, but I think I've found my go to FFL in this neck of the woods. Highly recommended.

Yep- my go to FFL too now, doesnt charge a premium for a new gun transfer (vs old) and also he's 3 mins from me. Again, his hrs are limited, no Sats and likes to leave early Fri's to go to Pa but did accomodate my "late" arrival on a Fri around 2:30-3:00.