Groan yet another question about getting fpid.... Do a search newb, read the pinned topics. Well I have done those and just need something cleared up. From what I overstand in NJ you have to fill out the state app and the mental health release form. At least thats how I read it. Here is what happened to me today. I went to local PD (UCNJ) to get prints done for CCW for Va and Fla as well as a set for a FBI NCIC check. (Just curious about the process and the format of the search results) As I was leaving I figured I'd save some ink and paper at home and ask for the forms from the city. The officer tells me that I need to come back another day as Mondays is his busiest day of the week. This raised some flags for me as I had just heard him tell a detective while he was doing my prints that he was going on vacation, but would be back next week. I however let it pass and just said that I just needed the forms, which he grudgingly gave to me. I stop off on my way home and get my CCW apps notarized and once home sit down to fill out the NJ app. I notice that there are more forms than I expected which includes besides the cover/instruction sheet, a firearms permit domestic violence disclosure form, authorization waiver to release information form (which also authorizes photocopies to be treated as an original), a firearms applicant questionnaire which asks for the name, dob, ssn and relationship of everyone living in household, the reason you want a permit, if you've ever had a permit before and from where, if you've had firearms training and what kind as well as the 2 state forms. I am then informed by my roommate that had just gotten his permit several weeks before that I also needed a case number as well as a fingerprinting card that needs to be taken to some place in Newark via an appointment costing $60. My question being is this the way it works? I don't overstand the need of an outside contractor doing the prints and background check as my overstanding is that a NCIC check is basically done via a phone call much like the one done when you purchase a firearm. Now my experience in these matters is limited to a previous CCW in Florida and the beginnings a a very involved process in Puerto Rico so forgive my ignorance. I just don't see anywhere in the state laws where this is the process. My main interest is in purchasing my own weapons for hunting and some target shooting, not having to rely on going and using friends weapons. I also realize that it will be almost impossible to obtain a NJ CCW, but I will eventually apply myself if nothing else to get my appeal on record as I have been writting it in advance (I will publish what I have in a couple of weeks on this forum for critique). Any help would be most appreciated, thanks in advance.

-nef

They will give you a case number when you turn in the paperwork so you can make an appointment to get your fingerprints done. As for the other forms, I will let someone else comment, but to me seem like they are extra forms that the PD just felt like throwing in there. Not totally sure about that. maybe someone else could comment on that.

Nef,

You are correct. At least some of the things you mentioned are what we call "additional conditions or requirements" which are specifically prohibited by 2C:58-3(f). NJ2AS is in the final stages of planning our second in a series of lawsuits attacking exactly these types of issues. I'm going to PM you my contact info. Don't know what will happen, but we should at least talk.

 

Bob

Nef,

You are correct. At least some of the things you mentioned are what we call "additional conditions or requirements" which are specifically prohibited by 2C:58-3(f). NJ2AS is in the final stages of planning our second in a series of lawsuits attacking exactly these types of issues. I'm going to PM you my contact info. Don't know what will happen, but we should at least talk.

 

Bob

sounds good Bob, thanks.