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So this is why cops become cops?

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I hear the sound of glass breaking.

 

Arrested for such things?

 

World shattered.

BS? Why? What crime did he commit? What would be the crime if two consenting adults had sex at your job while on the job? Would they get fired?

 

Of course they would get fired! As for crimes, meh, I don't think we need to go that far. Just can him and make him get a real job.

 

Come on guys. Who hasn't done it at work?

 

You Prudes. :sarcastichand:

 

 

I have. And I fully expect I would be fired if caught, and certainly if caught on video!

"which he knows or reasonably expects is likely to be observed by other nonconsenting persons"

 

If you do anything in public it's reasonable to expect that anyone could possibly see you, No?

did you guys forget about "the thin blue line?"

cops lookout for cops! :icon_mrgreen:

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Losing his job is far worse than any charges that would be filed.

 

LEO, correct me if I am wrong, if he is fired, there goes his pension and benefits?

 

To throw on criminal charges because he was banging some chick is just over the top. You can't have it both ways.

 

If you believe that criminal charges should be filed, then I assume you pull over and wait for the LEO to show up because you were going 5 mph over the speed limit too?

 

No one got hurt, no one else was involved, get over it. Who hasn't done it in public or someplace else outside of the bedroom.

To throw on criminal charges because he was banging some chick is just over the top.

 

Agreed.

 

No one got hurt, no one else was involved, get over it. Who hasn't done it in public or someplace else outside of the bedroom.

 

Not agreed. No comparison whatsoever. The guy's workplace is the public and his job and his uniform are intended to represent authority. No comparison to me whatsoever. A better comparison would be me working for UPS and screwing a girl on her car, in my UPS uniform, in the parking lot of one of my clients that I deliver to daily. I don't want Brown delivering to my office anymore and I don't want this cop wearing a uniform in public anymore.

But was it on a public street or some back alley? If he was doing it on main street... different story.

 

Doesn't matter, it's in the public eye. He was dumb enough to do it in uniform and in the open then he better man up and take the punishment.

Doesn't matter, it's in the public eye. He was dumb enough to do it in uniform and in the open then he better man up and take the punishment.

 

Damn straight.

 

Back alley? Give me a friggen break.

 

Now, if he was on a friend's property, and outside of eyeshot of all public roads, and gets setup or spied on, that's different. In that case, he should be reprimanded and demoted for being a dumbass in uniform. Any place with public access, either take off your uniform or lose your job IMO.

That's the latest update. Showed up a few days after the last update. I think it's a good outcome. What do you think?

 

I hazard a guess he may get his job back and his dismissal reduced to a suspension without pay on appeal.

 

I have to find the article but there is an update. He won't be charged with anything. BS

 

BS? Why? What crime did he commit? What would be the crime if two consenting adults had sex at your job while on the job? Would they get fired?

 

Agreed, criminal charges would be stupid. He should definitely be disciplined, and it sounds like he was. In this neck of the woods, porn or porn like activity while in uniform is one of the few things that sticks as a firing without a lot of fanfare once your bad behavior in uniform makes the news.

Losing his job is far worse than any charges that would be filed.

 

LEO, correct me if I am wrong, if he is fired, there goes his pension and benefits?

 

To throw on criminal charges because he was banging some chick is just over the top. You can't have it both ways.

 

If you believe that criminal charges should be filed, then I assume you pull over and wait for the LEO to show up because you were going 5 mph over the speed limit too?

 

No one got hurt, no one else was involved, get over it. Who hasn't done it in public or someplace else outside of the bedroom.

 

Him getting fired is an important part in maintaining the PD's moral capital. The taxpayers/public don't like it when folks who are supposed to be out there, doing a job on their dime, are fooling around and not doing their job.

Fired is perfectly reasonable. I'd expect to lose my job if I were caught probing a female while on the clock.

You weren't the one complaining about no Criminal Charges.

You weren't the one complaining about no Criminal Charges.

 

Yeah it was me. Ive been very busy therefore not posting much. I'm not unreasonable, Terminated is perfectly acceptable with me. That's what would have happened everywhere I have ever worked. Well except a bar or 2 when I was younger, haha

You guys work at strict places. I'm pretty sure I could get away with stuff at work and just get a don't do that again talk if I got caught. This is assuming there was no hint of sexual harassment.

 

Just reading the news, cops seem to do a lot worse and not lose their jobs. I'd consider that NJ state trooper that got busted for DUI a worse offense than sex on the car hood while on duty. She didn't lose her job.

Losing his job is far worse than any charges that would be filed.

 

LEO, correct me if I am wrong, if he is fired, there goes his pension and benefits?

 

Maks, I'd say any effect on his pension is a lot more than the $1000 and 6 months (maximum penalty) for a DP offense. As far as how it affects his pension it depends on what the law in NM is. It could be hit the streets with nothing (if the agency makes all his pension contributions), refund of his contributions, or reduced pension and benefits if he is alreday vested.

 

Him getting fired is an important part in maintaining the PD's moral capital. The taxpayers/public don't like it when folks who are supposed to be out there, doing a job on their dime, are fooling around and not doing their job.

 

DA has it right here, as I illustrated in my previous post a criminal prosecution is not a slam dunk. What do you think would happen if they did prosecute criminally and he was found not guilty as all elements of the crime were not met as I explained? Dealing with the guy via departmental charges (lower standard of proof) and firing him less than a week after it all became public was swift. I'm sure it pleased the masses with the torches and pitchforks outside NMSP HQS. He'll always have to give the reason for leaving on his resume or job application.

 

Keep in mind he has appeal rights. He may wind up getting his firing turned into a hefty suspension without pay.

You weren't the one complaining about no Criminal Charges.

I dont want to come across as some Nazi, i didnt want to sound like the guy should go to jail or something, but i did want to point out or rather discuss the subject since some people seemed to think it was something that was OK to do in public, the tinfoil hat isnt tight, people do get arrested for public urination and public fornication, but again it seemed like you took my statement as an absolute, many LEO's couldn't care less(depending on circumstances), I'm assuming they have better things to deal with. I'm fine with him getting fired, at that point the guys life is pretty much ruined, and i assume he will be living in his own prison for the next couple years. I don't even care about the sex part, its the complete lack of duty that bothers me.

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