I found this interesting article on gun buyback programs in NJ

http://www.shotgunnews.com/2011/08/19/questioning-no-questions-asked%E2%80%94are-gun-surrender-gimmicks-legal/

Quick Summary: Basically Nowhere in NJ law does it permit organization to perform gun buyback programs. Even if it’s the police performing one it’s questionable. Now on the other hand if you can find somthing that does permit it you can get a $5000 reward.

Soooo does that mean we can call the BATFE the next time there's a buy back?

This is completely true, the problem is it's up to the AG and the police to enforce these laws and they're the ones breaking the law. Their arrogance knows no boundries.

I think nj2as should sponsor one, filter out the stolen and illegal, and sell the remaining to our community with the proceeds going to lawsuits against the state. Won't take long and that will force the AG's hand...

I think nj2as should sponsor one, filter out the stolen and illegal, and sell the remaining to our community with the proceeds going to lawsuits against the state. Won't take long and that will force the AG's hand...

The problem is as soon as they tried those laws would suddenly be enforced. Also there is the risk that in such a scheme that you would end up paying more to get the rifles if many of them turn out to be stolen or just plain illegal than you would get from selling the legal ones.

The problem is as soon as they tried those laws would suddenly be enforced. Also there is the risk that in such a scheme that you would end up paying more to get the rifles if many of them turn out to be stolen or just plain illegal than you would get from selling the legal ones.

Once the laws are enforced, that makes the PD's or county's look bad if they turn around and hold another one, that's what Dan meant by forcing their hand. Either they DON'T enforce the laws, and NJ2AS makes money....or PD's and county's no longer hold gun buy backs.

 

And the concern for not making money would be true.....if the majority of the guns turned in were in fact illegal. That's the picture that gun buy backs try to paint, is that they're getting a crap ton of illegal guns off the street. NJ2AS would actually turn a decent profit if they held a gun buy back, filtered out the illegal guns to the PD, and resold the legal guns into the community.

I love and hate storied like this.

Let's get real here. They'd enforce the law against NJ2AS, then they'd turn around and hold a buyback of their own the weekend after, just for laughs. Laws don't apply to special people, and the cops and AG are special people. I figure you, my fellow peons, would have realized this by now.

Let's get real here. They'd enforce the law against NJ2AS, then they'd turn around and hold a buyback of their own the weekend after, just for laughs. Laws don't apply to special people, and the cops and AG are special people. I figure you, my fellow peons, would have realized this by now.

 

And I figured that some people would recognize satire but I guess this is beyond some "peons".

 

Note starwarsgeek45 used the term "fellow peons"

And the concern for not making money would be true.....if the majority of the guns turned in were in fact illegal. That's the picture that gun buy backs try to paint, is that they're getting a crap ton of illegal guns off the street. NJ2AS would actually turn a decent profit if they held a gun buy back, filtered out the illegal guns to the PD, and resold the legal guns into the community.

 

I would love to see the actual data from gun buy backs regarding how many are actually illegal guns, how many could be traced to crimes, etc. But of course, this goes against the "purpose" of a gun buy back. If people know "their guns" will be traced then only legal guns will be turned in which is not the point (as per the "gun buy backers") In other words, it's a circular argument...

 

I would bet however that 98% of guns turned in are legal or were never used in crimes.

And I figured that some people would recognize satire but I guess this is beyond some peons.

Wait, I did not know you could be sarcastic. Learn something new every day.

Wait, I did not know you could be sarcastic. Learn something new every day.

 

Likewise.

I would love to see the actual data from gun buy backs regarding how many are actually illegal guns, how many could be traced to crimes, etc. But of course, this goes against the "purpose" of a gun buy back. If people know "their guns" will be traced then only legal guns will be turned in which is not the point (as per the "gun buy backers") In other words, it's a circular argument...

I would bet however that 98% of guns turned in are legal or were never used in crimes.

They do get a lot of crime guns in some of the buybacks..but they;'ve been passed around from Skell to Skell for so ,long it's impossible to do any tracing.