Took my brand new PX4 to the bullet hole Saturday to spend a quality hour getting to know each other. I brought along 150 rounds of the RWS 124 grain FMJ, I got on sale from weapons world.

 

During the hour I was there, 3 different RO's were on duty. With about 15 mins to go, One RO comes over and asks me am I shooting steel, I answer 'No' its copper FMJ and he grabs a bullet and marches off to a pipe and does something - scratch it I suppose3 ??. He tells me the ammo is making too much sparks, however trying to get him to elaborate proved fruitless.

 

After I shoot another mag, he comes down, takes the ammo box and dumps the remaining shells out and tells me, IF i want to keep shooting I have to go into the shop and purchase some "Modern Ammo" - whatever that means ? - or finish up the remaining shells from that box ~10 and go. I am having hangfires - Now, there was no delay between trigger pull and bullet firing. I had been mixing some snap caps in with my mags to check I was'nt flinching.

 

So I go back into the crowded shop, waste 10 mins of range time and buy a box of Winchester 115 FMJ, finally, with only have a couple of mins left, I shoot about 20 rds of the Winchester and I notice no difference.

 

I see the RO behind me and tel;l him there's no difference but he says no, there is a world of difference.

 

Now were this Guy being informative and trying to help me out etc etc, I would be trying to get the benefit of his experience however he seemed pretty arrogant, with a I have passed judgement and no one can question that. He seemed uncomfortable having to actually talk to someone - me - as opposed to probably giving people a bollicking probably feels more natural.

 

SO i know quite a people jumped on the RWS ammo special and have shot it,

 

Has anyone had any problems with it ?

BS - they wanted you to buy their ammo..

The one time I was there the RO was such a jerkoff I am afraid I will punch him in the f*cking face if I ever go back.

 

Def not my fav range!!!

At the Bullet Hole? Shocking!

It has a bi-metal jacket, its a mild steel jacket washed with copper (not bad for the gun, dont worry). Many ranges dont allow it due to the misconception that it will damage backstops because its "AP" ammo which is BS. It doesnt have a steel CORE... some outdoor ranges wont allow it either out west because the sparks can cause fires. It doesnt do anything more to a proper backstop than any other ammo. I dont see how they will allow rifles but not a mild steel jacketed 9mm round? even a cast lead bullet out of a 30-06 is going to do more damage than a bimetal 9mm jacket...

 

But, rules are rules. He dumped out your remaining ammo? What a douchebag!

It has a bi-metal jacket, its a mild steel jacket washed with copper (not bad for the gun, dont worry).

 

Thats interesting, I had no Idea about the jacket having any steel in it. So the extra sparks are to be expected, he talked about it like the gun would blow up in my face and kill me. Grumbled about the powder being contaminated and ammo not being fit to shoot.

 

He dumped out your remaining ammo? What a douchebag!

 

Just to clarify, he dumped the ammo out onto the tray to see how much was left, not the bin or he would have found himself hammer-locked and kissing the wall.

 

Pretty frigging arrogant but I get the impression arrogance is par for the course

Find a new range. I know, easier said then done.

As if you needed another reason to completely avoid the Bullet Hole.

Wow, I would NEVER patronize that range again. What is with public ranges and RO's being complete douchebags?

To avoid there try paterson gunsmithing is close.never get bothered there. Quiet every tinge I go there too. I think the new name is g&s hunters. But I would try there as its a close range in the area.

Quick Overview

RWS 9mm Luger Ammunition 124 Grain FMJ 1000 round case. New production, non-corrosive, fully reloadable brass case. RWS manufacturers some of the highest quality ammunition available.

 

 

The above is from the description posted in the "good deals" thread here. says brass? I got a case myself but haven't shot it yet. Just put a magnet to a rnd, sticks to the bullet but not the case.

Only thing brass is the brass. The bullet itself is bimetal.

 

A lot of the cheap ammo though is just a thin coating of copper over a steel bullet, which I refuse to shoot through rifles. Have not seen it in handgun ammo yet.

To avoid there try paterson gunsmithing is close.never get bothered there. Quiet every tinge I go there too. I think the new name is g&s hunters. But I would try there as its a close range in the area.

 

+1

I have shot 500 rounds of RWS .45 ACP over the past month and did notice that it was sparking more than other ammo I have shot. I did not have any failures.

As if you needed another reason to completely avoid the Bullet Hole.

 

Unfortunately, everyone that works in that place thinks their **** doesn't stink. I guess that's the reason that of all my guns, not 1 was ever purchased there. You can barely even get someone to show you a gun in that place. I can't wait to that morris county range opens. I'll never go there again.

So I go to the bullethole Sunday ( I know I know but its 5 mins away ) and an RO comes over with his magnet and shows me the tip of the bullet sticking to the magnet and says it has a steel core and so i cannot shoot it because of the backstop.

 

Then points to the sign on the side of the booths listing the proscribed ammo and lo and behold RWS has now being add onto the list.

 

Well i still got 500 rds of RWS and I do not see me flushing it down a toilet so I guess its a road trip to G&S or Bayonne next time.