Here is an interesting article on the new Uniform Crime Report that was just released. Apparently though overall crime in new jersey had gone down, the murder rate has jumped 16%. Id love to see anyone try and justify more police layoffs in this state after this.

 

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And people need to keep in mind this is from 2009, which was just the first few layoffs. No one has seen any of the data from 2010 yet where mos departments were hit the hardest.

So the year we get One Gun A Month, our murder rate jumps 15%? Glad to see that's working for us.

So the year we get One Gun A Month, our murder rate jumps 15%? Glad to see that's working for us.

 

 

Completely irrelevant.. OGAM wouldnt have affected this one way or another. Nice try though.

 

**NOTE** OGAM is stupid and usleless..please dont attempt to try to portray me as supporting OGAM.

I'm guessing that was the poster's point-- that it has no effect whatsoever on crime.

That statement doesn't even make sense.... murder is a violent crime... they are not separate entities.. If murder is up 16 percent then violent crime all together would have to have dropped 16% to break even let alone be lower. There trying to make it sound better then it actually is... by separating the two...

Not true. Say there were 100 murders. A 16% increase would be 116. Now say there were 1000 total violent crimes (including murder). For violent crimes to stay the same, there would have to be at least 16 fewer of all other violent crimes to make up for the 16 more murders to break even. Violent crime as a whole could be down 5% to 950 including the 16 extra murders. Regardless, there's always some spin on it that doesn't belong anyway.

True True..

Not true. Say there were 100 murders. A 16% increase would be 116. Now say there were 1000 total violent crimes (including murder). For violent crimes to stay the same, there would have to be at least 16 fewer of all other violent crimes to make up for the 16 more murders to break even. Violent crime as a whole could be down 5% to 950 including the 16 extra murders. Regardless, there's always some spin on it that doesn't belong anyway.

True - this is why you always need to look at statistics with some suspicion no matter who is presenting them.

Not true. Say there were 100 murders. A 16% increase would be 116. Now say there were 1000 total violent crimes (including murder). For violent crimes to stay the same, there would have to be at least 16 fewer of all other violent crimes to make up for the 16 more murders to break even. Violent crime as a whole could be down 5% to 950 including the 16 extra murders. Regardless, there's always some spin on it that doesn't belong anyway.

 

 

 

Harry