So..... making another trek down to N.Carolina to see family, and as usual, I plan on making use of my CCW rights....

 

But I was also looking into their Open Carry laws..... but I stumbled onto a very restrictive law they have....

 

First the good news...... North Carolina is a traditional Open Carry state..... meaning even without a permit, a resident or non-resident is allowed to Open Carry..... nice.....

 

Now the law that will severely restrict me this trip.

 

North Carolina prohibits Open or Concealed Carry ANYWHERE admission is charged.... So my family plans on going to the NC State Fair all weekend..... They charge admission...... NO Carry.... I never would have thought about it, glad I looked into it....

 

This is just a reminder for those of us with Florida, Virginia, Utah etc.... CCW permits..... Check those laws of the state we are visiting so we dont get our butts in a sling....

Check out the CCW sites, I belong to USCCA and bookmarked the CCW laws lookup on my iPhone, not sure if any of them have apps or not but I like the ability to pull up the laws in case I find myself in a state I didn't plan on being in, other than that I will print up the laws and have them with me as I travel.

 

Here is one site to start with: USCCA

 

Harry

Wow, I never thought of that. By that logic, you couldn't go to a movie theatre, since they charge admission. I wonder why that was chosen as a criteria.

NC is an odd duck among the "Free states".

 

Read this pamphlet...restrictions start on Page 21 as printed at bottom of page.

 

If you plan on OCing...google "NC Going Armed To The Terror Of The People"

Back in nc for the weekend

And yet another pia law in n carolina

I thought I was ok going into a restaurant that serves alcohol as long as I was not in the bar section....... Nope, can't even enter.

Also the fast food joint Bojangales is a "gun free" establishment as per the restaurant chain owner

Also reading off the n Carolina rifle and pistol club website it says although Open Carry is legal it is not accepted other really rural areas. N Carolina does have a weird law on its books about causing "fear" if seen with a firearm.....meaning if I am walking down the street and someone is uncomfortable with seeing me carrying, they can call the police and I can be arrested.

Not complaining but just giving everyone insight that even in free America , there are still dumb gun laws

Please excuse the worse then usual spelling and grammer from me I am on my iPhone LOL

Not as free as it should be but a heck of a lot less restrictive as here. Being you are on the iPhone, I like to use the CCW law map on the USCCA website. I have an icon on my phone that links me right to the page so I can always have a backup way of checking things out If I didn't already know.

 

Oops, I was using the unread feature and missed that I had already posted some about this.

Yes found that icon and downloaded it

Great link to have when traveling

Yeah not really complaining but just giving insight to fellow forum members that are looking to ccw in other parts of the county that it is important to check their local laws

Troy, is no carry in restaurant LAW or their POLICY?

Back in nc for the weekend

And yet another pia law in n carolina

I thought I was ok going into a restaurant that serves alcohol as long as I was not in the bar section....... Nope, can't even enter.

Also the fast food joint Bojangales is a "gun free" establishment as per the restaurant chain owner

Also reading off the n Carolina rifle and pistol club website it says although Open Carry is legal it is not accepted other really rural areas. N Carolina does have a weird law on its books about causing "fear" if seen with a firearm.....meaning if I am walking down the street and someone is uncomfortable with seeing me carrying, they can call the police and I can be arrested.

Not complaining but just giving everyone insight that even in free America , there are still dumb gun laws

Please excuse the worse then usual spelling and grammer from me I am on my iPhone LOL

 

My friend just moved down there. He just called me up telling me at Walmart(picking up a 10/22) someone was OCing with no issues.

Law

Any establishment that serves alcohol is a "criminal safe" zone

 

Not that a bad guy would ever think of robbing such a cash rich type of business...... :rolls eyes:

Law Any establishment that serves alcohol is a "criminal safe" zone

Oh I get it now,, maybe this:

Back in nc for the weekend

 

Also the fast food joint Bojangales is a "gun free" establishment as per the restaurant chain owner

 

 

Not a restriction, just a property owner exercising his rights, which in this instance trump yours.

Not a restriction, just a property owner exercising his rights, which in this instance trump yours.

I dont have a problem with it frankly..of course i ALSO would exercise my right to take my business elsewhere... I see it as free Speech..You can say what you want, stand on your soapbox and rant away..you dont have the right to do so in MY Yard though.

Don't get me wrong

I respect a business owners decision

I do this thread just so people remember to be educated on where they can carry when they travel.

That is all

I had this issue when I stayed in Charlotte at a hotel located on University/School grounds.

IMO, although OC is legal in some states by anyone not prohibited, and of course within the rules/laws... I think people should pay attention to the cultural environment of the locations where they plan on OC'ing. It could have legal ramifications, or at least can result in unwanted attention from LE. Sure it is a right, and even protected by law (at least in some states), and people should NOT be harassed for exercising their rights, but one could argue that it could under some circumstances not be the best decision.

 

To me, laws allowing the right of OC is the "catch all" legal protective law. Where you have the freedom to unholster your weapon to place in a box in your car, accidentally have it exposed while concealed,etc. Or to OC in areas where it is culturally accepted, and people don't even pay attention.

 

North Carolina prohibits Open or Concealed Carry ANYWHERE admission is charged....

 

 

This is a badly worded law and could be open to selective enforcement, so hypothetically speaking...If a person goes to a gun show in North Carolina, pays admission and walks out with a rifle ...the person could be charged? What about those selling at a gun show? They are bringing firearms in to a place where they have to pay for a table (admission). What about a gun range charging by the hour (admission) ?

The Carolinas are pretty shitty when it comes to gun laws. They are not representative of the average or median states within America.

anti's are everywhere. They were trying to ban concealed carry into bars while I was in CO, our opposition to that was "When has this ever been an issue?" Not one case could be brought up to defend their point of view. CSU also tried to ban concealed carry on campus, we fought them in court and won. Anti's are everywhere. I have a buddy that lives in North Carolina ad he told me they have some sort of permit system for handguns there as well. The will take your rights however and where ever they can.

I have a buddy that lives in North Carolina ad he told me they have some sort of permit system for handguns there as well. The will take your rights however and where ever they can.

 

A person has to go to the sheriff for permit to purchase buy a handgun, and some have argued that it is up to the discretion of the sheriff. I believe the permit to purchase requirement is waived when one has a carry permit.

 

 

A person has to go to the sheriff for permit to purchase buy a handgun, and some have argued that it is up to the discretion of the sheriff. I believe the permit to purchase requirement is waived when one has a carry permit.

 

That's insane. I had no idea it was that bad.

That's insane. I had no idea it was that bad.

 

http://www.ncrpa.org/faq/ownership.shtml

 

Q: What is the deal with this Pistol Purchase Permit law? I moved from one NC county to another and found that the Sheriffs of each county have vastly different requirements for getting Permits. Isn't this covered by State law?

A: The Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed in 1919, and is a classic piece of Jim Crow-era legislation (Jim Crow History). The recognition of civil rights for blacks and other minorities meant that the Constitution applied to minorities. This meant that blacks and other minorities could exercise their natural right to self-defense, with the full support of the 2nd Amendment to the US Constitution and Article I, Sec. 30 of the North Carolina Constitution.

 

This did not sit well with the Ku Klux Klan (which for many years was headquartered in Raleigh, just down the street from the Legislature) and other racist groups and influential individuals. The racist members of the State Legislature knew they could not overtly prevent minorities from purchasing handguns for protection, so the seemingly innocent Pistol Purchase Permit law was passed. This law allowed local Sheriffs and government officials to discriminate with impunity at the local level.

 

Even today, the Pistol Purchase Permit law is implemented in an arbitrary and capricious fashion by 100 individual County Sheriffs. Some Sheriffs do little more than collect the fees and hand out permits to the law-abiding, because more than that is not necessary. Others implement ridiculous, intrusive requirements that either discriminate on a wholesale basis or are selectively applied so that discrimination can be more personalized.

Back in nc for the weekend

And yet another pia law in n carolina

I thought I was ok going into a restaurant that serves alcohol as long as I was not in the bar section....... Nope, can't even enter.

Also the fast food joint Bojangales is a "gun free" establishment as per the restaurant chain owner

Also reading off the n Carolina rifle and pistol club website it says although Open Carry is legal it is not accepted other really rural areas. N Carolina does have a weird law on its books about causing "fear" if seen with a firearm.....meaning if I am walking down the street and someone is uncomfortable with seeing me carrying, they can call the police and I can be arrested.

Not complaining but just giving everyone insight that even in free America , there are still dumb gun laws

Please excuse the worse then usual spelling and grammer from me I am on my iPhone LOL

Law

Any establishment that serves alcohol is a "criminal safe" zone

 

Not that a bad guy would ever think of robbing such a cash rich type of business...... :rolls eyes:

 

I do believe this was changed this past December...HB650. You can now carry into the restaurant that sells alcohol you just can't drink.