TactiTWAT

No, I am not.

Note to self: Order tactical bottle opener.

 

Love the beverage entry tool .

+1 to tacticool bottle opener. Might come in handy during 3 gun match while running between arrays.

 

ROFMAO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwfJpsMv10k&feature=related

wow.....Shane go on a diet?

We call those the Christmas Tree rifles. Everyone wants to hang more and more crap on it every year.

+1. It is quite a bit of fun to see the guys that have more money in crap bolted to the rifle than the rifle itself. I laugh when I see the tacti-tards that never served in the military carry stuff labeled as tactical because they see it on video games or they think it's cool.

 

ROFMAO

 

I couldn't watch the whole thing.

Just because you CAN post a video doesn't mean you SHOULD post a video.

Definately more accessories then IQ points.

If you watch the whole video, you know it is a joke. =P The outtakes they talk about putting candy in the butt stock for the tactical snack.

I don't even think tacicool/tactitard is funny any more. I saw a nipple head shooting an AR with a holo at a 45* angle awhile ago. He was affiliated with the forum remotely(I don't want to hurt anybodies feelings). Just felt like butt stroking the weiner.

 

It's gotten to the point like building custom motorcycles. Build an art form but it ain't worth $hit.

 

Later on I'll tell you how I really feel...

I don't even think tacicool/tactitard is funny any more. I saw a nipple head shooting an AR with a holo at a 45* angle awhile ago. He was affiliated with the forum remotely(I don't want to hurt anybodies feelings). Just felt like butt stroking the weiner.

 

It's gotten to the point like building custom motorcycles. Build an art form but it ain't worth $hit.

 

Later on I'll tell you how I really feel...

 

 

Frank...

 

A halo sight on a 45 degree can't is quite useful and common in 3 gun matches. =) That or pistol sights.

It's gotten to the point like building custom motorcycles. Build an art form but it ain't worth $hit.

 

 

Agree big time, there cookie cutter chops on the TV shows are crap, let along I think a lot of them are hacks, I wouldn't let the OCC crew try and fix a Boat Anchor. I have always built bikes I could ride, well I may not want to ride any distance on some of my ol 60's and 70's rigid chops any longer, I sure as heck did back then when I built them.

Frank...

 

A halo sight on a 45 degree can't is quite useful and common in 3 gun matches. =) That or pistol sights.

 

True Maks. I've seen it in 3 gun. #1 that's a game #2 The level that become an competitive edge at is beyond the entry level shooter.

 

I'm just a develope sound basics kinda guy and get the impression that alot of accessories are used and the basics have never been developed.

 

I'm sure you know what I mean, Like a new shooter buying an open class gun.

 

I'm interested to hear you opinion.

Absolutely agree.

 

For the vast majority of the people, it just looks cool. I dont think anyone really uses their gear to their full potential.

 

Ie, if an average gun has 500 rounds before it is called "old", how can we say any gun is reliable.

 

And this is taking it in a slightly different direction...

 

But I recall buying my first centerfire handgun, before NJGF, on THR from Gerri, (Axeman_g), it was a CZ 85. Gerri was like the 3rd owner and I was the 4th. The gun had somewhere around 20k rounds through it. To me it seemed like a very crazy, gun is about to fall apart number. Just last month, I shot 500 rounds for one match. lol.

 

My AR, though, only has like 200 rounds through it. Its getting old, I must sell. =P

The 45 degree cant does have a practical purpose, notably for those involved with vehicle operations. Being mobile around a vehicle is important, as a good deal of rounds can shred through most vehicles/parts of a vehicle (excluding the engine block for the most part)-- so, the whole hiding behind the wheel thing is so 1980's, ha. The same applies to any low type of cover where a person needs to be mobile, as silhouetting one's self kind of destroys the purpose of cover.

 

With that said, the above applies to a very, very, very small percentage of people-- and those who just do it because they saw it in a training video or whatever are probably chuckle heads.

 

ETA: I find "tacticool" pretty hard to swallow as well. As Eric pointed out, there are a good number of people who will either buy the super expensive stuff because they saw renown trainers or operators using them (or in some movie or video game). There are also those who resort to buying the really cheap stuff that mimics the expensive stuff-- and pile it on in bunches. I'm not saying it's wrong, as everybody has a right to do whatever they want. But man, as I always seem to say, and as Ken would always say, "it's the Indian, not the arrow."

http://3gunnation.com/news/voigt_wins_open_at_nationals

 

You can see some canted sight options there. =P

+1. It is quite a bit of fun to see the guys that have more money in crap bolted to the rifle than the rifle itself. I laugh when I see the tacti-tards that never served in the military carry stuff labeled as tactical because they see it on video games or they think it's cool.

 

I understand your feelings, and agree with SOME of what you say but as these kids get older they will learn more and understand the value of the 2 amendment.

 

As far as the video, it was a joke. Nothing else.

I don't even think tacicool/tactitard is funny any more. I saw a nipple head shooting an AR with a holo at a 45* angle awhile ago. He was affiliated with the forum remotely(I don't want to hurt anybodies feelings). Just felt like butt stroking the weiner.

 

It's gotten to the point like building custom motorcycles. Build an art form but it ain't worth $hit.

 

Later on I'll tell you how I really feel...

In some 3-gun or Multigun matches you have to transition from Long-range targets to Closer targets sometimes during the same course of fire. With your Optic sighted in at 75-100 yards, your POI will be significantly off, nevermind focus at say 5-10 yards. While it can goofy at times it actually DOES have a practical use to it

+1. It is quite a bit of fun to see the guys that have more money in crap bolted to the rifle than the rifle itself. I laugh when I see the tacti-tards that never served in the military carry stuff labeled as tactical because they see it on video games or they think it's cool.

There is nothing wrong with that reason to own stuff. Thats my reason why I bought all the weapons that I have, and for that matter just about every thing I own.

I'm not "tactical," though I don't criticize accessory choice.

 

While were at it, can someone explain 3 gun to me? I watched a bunch of the videos at 3-gun nation.com, and it still seems like a sport that was invented by manufacturers to sell tactical accessories. I mean, their slogan is, "To be the best, use only the best."

There is nothing wrong with that reason to own stuff. Thats my reason why I bought all the weapons that I have, and for that matter just about every thing I own.

 

if you are going to buy the stuff learn to use it, not put it on for the sake of putting it on. I saw a guy with a laser on an ar at the range one day. He never bothered to get it set up right and had it on for months. I commented on it and he said "I put it on because it looks cool" If the shooting sports are turning into a tacti-tard wallet/lack of brains contest I truly fear for our future. Overall they make others that enjoy the 2nd Amendment look like a bunch of black gun toting idiots.

Its basically gun racing with 3 guns instead of one.

 

USN, I could care less what people buy and strap on their rifles. As you alude to, what is important is how effective you are at using it. It is my opinion that MOST firearms owners really have no idea and believe their occasional trip to a static, square range makes them good to go and the accessories they strap on will magically make them more effective. But in the end for most of them its bragging rites. We all know someone with a super hot, super fast car that looks at us like we have two heads when you tell them to get on it, we just got passed by Grandma! Same thing. I know a Z06 owner that I dont think his car has ever seen tripple digits, EVER! Except for the time he let me take it for a spin .

 

I will tell you that there is a problem that exists however. And that is that the simple reality is the the dollars from the mall ninja has made an impact in driving the market. In my view this can be a bad thing. It has been a back room discussion amongst manufacturers you would all recognise the names of. The discussion is about chasing $ or building the right products. In some cases the mall ninja market believes a product should be one way. The real deal guys that have been there want it another way that actually works. Which do you manufacture?

Which do you manufacture?

 

both

In some 3-gun or Multigun matches you have to transition from Long-range targets to Closer targets sometimes during the same course of fire. With your Optic sighted in at 75-100 yards, your POI will be significantly off, nevermind focus at say 5-10 yards. While it can goofy at times it actually DOES have a practical use to it

 

Pipes- I totally understand and agree. I would think that the A2 battle sight(the large aperature) may be as effective.

Yes I know you would have to flip it but the rifle would stay in position.

 

Your thoughts...

if you are going to buy the stuff learn to use it, not put it on for the sake of putting it on. I saw a guy with a laser on an ar at the range one day. He never bothered to get it set up right and had it on for months. I commented on it and he said "I put it on because it looks cool" If the shooting sports are turning into a tacti-tard wallet/lack of brains contest I truly fear for our future. Overall they make others that enjoy the 2nd Amendment look like a bunch of black gun toting idiots.

 

Tacti-Tards, ROFLMAO, now that's funny, but be thankful for them, if it was just a few people buying these tactical accessories there would be less demand, probably resulting in higher prices, Less need for them and less focus on development. Plus, no matter what, they are supporting either the local stores, ranges, clubs, FFL's, and manufacturers, and hopefully believe in the 2A the same way we do. They may not be the same, but they are part of US.

Pipes- I totally understand and agree. I would think that the A2 battle sight(the large aperature) may be as effective.

Yes I know you would have to flip it but the rifle would stay in position.

 

Your thoughts...

 

My eyes are shot..at this point i need the optic, especially if i've been running around playing Tactical Teddy LOL. Also, the way those 45° sights are mounted, usually they are a little tighter to the bore than the optic, so you arent shooting through your Cover...Like I did at the Multigun last november