Ok I got nabbed at a red light camera. I was not going through the intersection but making a right on red. Apparently I did not come to a complete stop before making my right hand turn. Actually I slowed down from 19mph to 15 mph to make the turn, so I am guilty as charged.

 

But... is that Running a Red Light as I am charged. It sounds more like not coming to a complete stop...

 

Any patrol officers want to chime in on this????

I would think it's just a fine, as they have no idea who was actually in the car.

My link

Page 13 of chapter 4 of the driving manual.

When I was taking my driving class in HS they called it a California stop.

Are you sure it is not a no turn on red signal?

if it's a Red light Camera it'll probably be a no-point fine..I THINK. Remember those things are there to generate money for the Company that installs them IIRC the company gets 50% of the fines... In THIS CASE it actually IS "Revenue Enhancement" over Safety..sepecially since it's been proven that some of the companies "Tweak" the Light timing to make it more difficult to stop in time without setting off the camera.

I did it in NY, but they dropped the ticket after I explained there was an ambulance/cop/firetruck behind me.

 

Request a copy of the video during discovery. For that violation they need more than a camera, they need video and that is expensive and easily lost.

Video is online... aint getting lost. I may post it on youtube for everybody to get a laugh. It is only $$$$..... still pisses me off. The darn turn lane is perfect for making this turn.... I do this turn one a week for YEARS!!!!! I know what a California stop is... I have perfected it!!!!!! I broke the darn law, but I dont think it counts a running as red light. Running a red light is more like going through the whole intersection.

New camera I guess?

about a month old.

Video is online... aint getting lost. I may post it on youtube for everybody to get a laugh. It is only $$$$..... still pisses me off. The darn turn lane is perfect for making this turn.... I do this turn one a week for YEARS!!!!! I know what a California stop is... I have perfected it!!!!!! I broke the darn law, but I dont think it counts a running as red light. Running a red light is more like going through the whole intersection.

 

post the video, we can come up with ur defense!

Post it!!!!

post it.

damn... can figure out how to save it or rip it down.

That sucks, I don;t really like them cameras or automated speed traps, and you can thank the folks in Paradise Vally AZ being that is where they started using them first and the people there really liked them..

 

Either way, it should be a fine only if they run them in NJ like they do in every other state that I know of, that and they are private companies that run them not the state or PD's.

The worst is the speed cameras in the Washington DC / Maryland area... ugh. Once you see that flash, you know they are gonna take a nice chunk of $$$ away from you.

I wish people would start giving these cameras the Gatso business. http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

 

This is nothing more than a fat wallet to loot.

The cameras in my town are placed high up on utility poles, where they are not nearly as accesible as the ones on that website.

 

To the OP, as others have noted, there are no points involved with your violation, just a fine. As a wise man once told me,

if you have a problem, and you can solve it with money; then it's not really a problem, just an expense. Not to minimize your plight, because it still hurts to pay out hard earned money needlessly, but sometimes those words help me keep things in perspective.

so I am guilty as charged.

 

+1 to you for your personal accountability.. something that is pretty lost in our society today!

 

what is the actual ticket violation? that was mailed to you.. is there like an actual violation number? that would normally indicate what you are "charged" with..

Its only a fine. No points. I've had my fair share taken when I lived in staten island. Damn things are everywhere

I wish people would start giving these cameras the Gatso business. http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

 

This is nothing more than a fat wallet to loot.

 

The cameras inside are sometimes COTS DSLR Cameras. So if you ever wanted a cheap (illegal) way to get into photography...

The cameras in my town are placed high up on utility poles, where they are not nearly as accesible as the ones on that website.

 

To the OP, as others have noted, there are no points involved with your violation, just a fine. As a wise man once told me,

if you have a problem, and you can solve it with money; then it's not really a problem, just an expense. Not to minimize your plight, because it still hurts to pay out hard earned money needlessly, but sometimes those words help me keep things in perspective.

 

Maybe a paintball gun can work?

Looking through the GATSO pics... this one was just hilarious!

 

 

I'm pretty sure I have one coming to me as well.. same story.. turn on red..

 

If a patrol cop was standing there.. there's about a 1% chance he would actually write you a ticket for that.. that's the part that pisses me off..