http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/22/8952917-parents-of-adolf-hitler-campbell-lose-custody-of-newborn-hons

 

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Sucks that the kid has the name but once he is an adult he can change it. I guess its the parents right to name like that... If you start saying THATS A BAD NAME YOU CANT DO THAT! Where does it stop? And taking the new kid without a court order? Bleh. Its a mess

I doubt strongly that it was the name that prompted the childrens removal. The name and the incident with the cake is certainly what got DYFS's attention.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

Hmm, shouldn't there be more to the story than just the names? I

can see this happening if there were some type of neglect/abuse.

 

I'm not a lawyer so I ask don't names fall under the 1st amendment?

 

While I don't agree with the names should the govt. be allowed to

take away kids because they don't either?

Upon further reading its about alleged violence in the past at their house

Upon further reading its about alleged violence in the past at their house

 

 

That makes sense, the names were just icing on the cake (pun intended)... ah so tasteless, sorry.

The idiot father tried to plead his case on TV the other day..... all while sporting a Hitler 'stache and showing the big swastika tattoo on his neck.

I doubt strongly that it was the name that prompted the childrens removal. The name and the incident with the cake is certainly what got DYFS's attention.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

 

I agree. For a judge to remove children from a home there must be valid reasons.

I remeber seeing the news about the birthday cake..

 

not sure what to make of this whole scene...

HAPPY BIRFDAY..

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYKsrLdPck

 

Intresting vid..

http://blog.chron.com/newswatch/2011/10/parents-of-adolf-hitler-campbell-still-fighting-to-keep-him/

I think it's a slippery slope as well, but I also agree with others.....the name wasn't the issue. Let's be honest, we've all seen some pretty bad names.

The parents are scumbags.

I hate nazism, since any sort of pride of my German heritage seems to make me suspect because of it, and I don't approve of this. Personally, I feel bad for the kid, he's going to catch hell in school. However, assuming there's no other abuse, then I'm not sure the government should be able to intervene. Assuming it's simply the name, and that potential bullying, etc. they will experience was the deciding factor, then why doesn't the government intervene when someone names their kid Chlamydia (Actual girl at my sister's school, there's also a Syx-Pece, or six piece.) I don't like the idea of the government intervening in anyone's life, even if disgusting people like this do do something so reprehensible. As far as I'm concerned, the 9th amendment is often forgotten, but is perhaps one of the most important, as it provides the most freedoms. It protects every other right that is not enumerated in the rest of the bill of rights. Therefore, they do, constitutionally, have the right to name their kid whatever they want.

I remember reading about these people a while ago. As I recall, they are total whack jobs who have no business having and raising children.

I hate nazism, since any sort of pride of my German heritage seems to make me suspect because of it, and I don't approve of this. Personally, I feel bad for the kid, he's going to catch hell in school. However, assuming there's no other abuse, then I'm not sure the government should be able to intervene. Assuming it's simply the name, and that potential bullying, etc. they will experience was the deciding factor, then why doesn't the government intervene when someone names their kid Chlamydia (Actual girl at my sister's school, there's also a Syx-Pece, or six piece.) I don't like the idea of the government intervening in anyone's life, even if disgusting people like this do do something so reprehensible. As far as I'm concerned, the 9th amendment is often forgotten, but is perhaps one of the most important, as it provides the most freedoms. It protects every other right that is not enumerated in the rest of the bill of rights. Therefore, they do, constitutionally, have the right to name their kid whatever they want.

 

 

That's a HELL of an assumption.DYFS is screwed up, but they are screwed up in the direction of INaction as opposed to overaction.... The DYFS case against the parents was ongoing BEFORE the whole thing with the name came out, the Name thing was brought to the Press BY THE FATHER, after a local grocery store refused to make a birthday cake for "Adolph" some think to try and cast doubt on the DYFS case (ie. they're picking on us because of what we named our kids) The kids were taken not too long after the birthday cake thing went to the papers, and just as the Sh!theel hoped, MANY people assumed it was because of the names. There were allegations of Physical abuse, and also psychological issues with both parents IIRC. I spoke to a friend at Dyfs, who, while she refused (rightly so) to give any details, she told me that the case was really solid against one or both of the parents when it came to physical abuse of the kids...i'm not surprised that they took the newborn..nor am i surprised they're still trying to play the Sympathy card. As far as being German..try having a name that was associated with the German American Bund from inception... :/ My Paternal grandfather left Germany for the US LONG before the NSDAP came into power, we never felt we had anything to prove..the few times someone brought up the name a simple, No relation was more than enough. I dont regret my German blood any more than the Scots or Irish.

I believe that as an American the parents have the right to be Nazi's and they have the right to name their children anything they want. I also believe that just because you CAN do something it doesn't mean you SHOULD do it.

DYFS - as a medic I have been involved in many DYFS cases. I have also been involved in a case this year involving family (not immideate). I am also friendly with an Atlantic County case worker. I give this info as background for my opinions to follow. I have seen DYFS work to reunite a man with his wife and step children after he sexually molested one of the step children, they all went through counceling and he was "healed" and is not back with the kid he molested (his wife, the mother of the molested child, did not wan to press charges and convinced the kid to change his story). I had a case where the father used a hot iron on his daughter who was crying too much. DYFS did an investigation and made the dad go through counceling. In the mean time he had supervised visits. I don't know the final outcome. The case worker I am friendly with has told me that children only get removed when there is a significant ongoing threat to the childrens safety.

DYFS does not take kids based on the rediciouls beliefs of their parents or the parents poor choice of names. These kids were taken because of an ongoing threat to their safety. We will probably know the truth in a few years when all the court cases are done.

This situation falls into the legal gray area I define as "MrP's Law". Yes they have a right to name their kids whatever they want, but it isn't right. I fully support the parents' right to name their kids after Nazi war-criminals but these parents have to respect my right to smack them (the parents) upside the head whenever I see them. Hard.

 

The mention of previous violence in their household suggests that if the state can prove the children were in danger, the state has every right to remove the children.