Bonesium posted a quote here a few days ago from Ben Franklin, but it went something to the effect of "Those who sacrifice freedom in the name of safety will lose there freedom and safety". Something like that, someone help me with that.

• "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."
  
  • This was written by Franklin, within quotation marks but is generally accept as his original thought, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin (1818).
    

 

Many paraphrased derivatives of this have often become attributed to Franklin:

• He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.
  People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.
  
• If we restrict liberty to attain security we will lose them both.
  Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
  
• He who gives up freedom for safety deserves neither
  

Maybe because of your hatred for TSA, your attitude is what got you selected. I don't know.

 

Yeah - you don't know. Let's leave it at that.

The problem is the ratio of them to good ones that is the problem, and that's not just for our area of the country.

 

True that. The main issue is that they are given more authority then most deserve, and it gets abused.

 

 

Yeah - you don't know. Let's leave it at that.

 

No need to get all defensive man.

No need to get all defensive man.

 

Really? You reach across the aisle and punch me in my face, wait, here's my other cheek <show's Bonesinium one arse cheek and a BIIIIIIG rip roaring fart "for humor">.

What are you talking about?

When we were in Phoenix Airport, my girlfriend saw them take a small globe from an older couple, grandparents bringing a gift home for their grandchild. They told them "we don't know what the liquid inside is". Stupidity.

We had a bottle of milk for my daughter to take on the plane, they made us poor it out. Thank God the stewardess's are actual humans and gave us warm milk on the plane.