What's up NJ. I finally scratched up some change to pick up a saiga. What's the shortest model I can legally purchase in NJ. I like the shorter barel I think it's 16.3 any help would be appreciated . Thanks

from this site:

 

A semi-automatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

 

This means that if it is a semi-automatic shotgun and has a detachable magazine it can have ONE of the following features and still be legal, but if it has two or more, then it would not be legal.

 

 

(1) A folding or telescoping stock;

(2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

**note(having a pistol grip on a semi auto shotgun makes the gun automatically illegal even if NO other evil features are present..)**

(3) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of six rounds;

(4) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;

 

 

OR

 

 

A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a folding stock

or a pistol grip;

 

 

Example

1) A Saiga 12 (which is a semi automatic shotgun ). LEGAL

2) A Saiga 12 (which is a semi automatic shotgun ) with a pistol grip. ILLEGAL

 

Since "pistol grip" is a term NJ uses to describe a feature, it is important to know what NJ deems a pistol grip.

Take notice that it does not say fired comfortably with one hand.. it simply says fired..

 

"Pistol grip" means a well defined handle, similar to that found on a handgun, that protrudes

conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, and which permits the firearm to be held and fired

with one hand.

 

 

OTHER FIREARM LEGALITIES/QUALIFICATIONS

It is also important to observe the minimum length a firearm can be.

 

Rifle

Overall Length 26in or more

Barrel Length 16in or more

 

 

Shotgun

Overall Length 26in or more

Barrel Length 18in or more

So if I read right I can have a collapsing stock on a saiga 12guage?? And not have it pinned

Tommy, he's asking about a rifle, not a shotgun. Johna, 16" is the minimum length that the barrel must be on your rifle....and that's a federal law, not an NJ law. From what I know, there isn't a factory Saiga that's sold that doesn't meet this minimum length requirement.

Tommy, he's asking about a rifle, not a shotgun.

scroll down to the bottom of the post i copy and pasted...

 

OTHER FIREARM LEGALITIES/QUALIFICATIONS

It is also important to observe the minimum length a firearm can be.

 

Rifle

Overall Length 26in or more

Barrel Length 16in or more

So if I read right I can have a collapsing stock on a saiga 12guage?? And not have it pinned

 

 

there is more to it..

 

A semi-automatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

(1) A folding or telescoping stock;

(2) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

**note(having a pistol grip on a semi auto makes the gun automatically illegal even if NO other evil features are present..)**

(3) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of six rounds; and/or

(4) An ability to accept a detachable magazine;

 

A semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a folding stock

or a pistol grip;

 

the law is written that a "folding stock, hi cap mag, or pistol grip" are an automatic dis qualifier.. pretty sure that telescoping is not an automatic red flag (as folder is)

 

but from a practical sense.. a telescoping stock to be functional is probably going to require a pistol grip?

 

but from a practical sense.. a telescoping stock to be functional is probably going to require a pistol grip?

This. I can't think of any telescoping stocks that would work well without a pistol grip.