I'm sure its been asked and answered, but im in a pkace with spotty coverage so search isnt working well. Hope this gets through... Anyway, buddy poses a situation; car is in shop for several days and he would like to take his freshly built ar to the range to see how well he did. The range he goes to is just a 30 min drive which he cant make since car is unavailable, but there is a bus stop directly across the street from range. How to get gun to range? I can't recall off the top of my head anything other than how to transport weapon in pov. Is pov the only acceptable manner to transport in NJ? I know silly question, but in a perverted way I am interested if anyone knows.

guitar case like in desparado! lol... idk..

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Essentially put it in a case, in a non transparent backpack or bag, unloaded. Locks are not legally required, but it would be a good faith gesture and may keep you out of trouble. Go directly to range and back. No side trips.

 

Don't advertise and you'll be fine.

I would check the individual weapons policy for the bus he intends to use.. as some as policy do NOT allow firearms..

Here's some more food for thought.

 

Let me guess...box that says "air rifle".

 

 

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2 men arrested on NJ Transit bus for possessing air rifle

 

Published: Monday, August 01, 2011, 8:27 PM Updated: Tuesday, August 02, 2011, 6:26 AM

 

By Steve Strunsky/The Star-Ledger

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Reena Rose Sibayan/The Jersey JournalAn aerial view of the New Jersey entrance into the Lincoln Tunnel is shown in this file photo. Authorities staked out the entrance this evening waiting to arrest two passengers on an NJ Transit bus who allegedly carried an air rifle on board.

WEEHAWKEN — Two men aboard an NJ Transit bus were arrested on weapons charges tonight when they were found in possession of an air rifle, authorities said.

The two were charged with possession of a weapon without a permit after they allegedly purchased the air rifle in Pennsylvania, where permits are not required for the guns, said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Air rifles use compressed air to fire small-calliber pellets, typically .177 inches in diameter, though larger caliber variety are available. They are typically used for target practice.

A law enforcement official said the men, who were not immediately identified, were spotted on board the bus sometime before 7 p.m., in the area of the Vince Lombardi Service Area on the New Jersey Turnpike in Bergen County.

He said NJ Transit contacted the Port Authority Police Department, which staked out the toll plaza near the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel, waiting for the bus to arrive. Coleman said the two men were arrested without incident and without significant delays to tunnel traffic.

Yes well they were going into NYC which lists bb guns as illegal.

they bought them in PA.

I assume no FOID card in possesion, if not, then he's f**ked.

Here's some more food for thought.

 

Let me guess...box that says "air rifle".

 

 

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2 men arrested on NJ Transit bus for possessing air rifle

 

Published: Monday, August 01, 2011, 8:27 PM Updated: Tuesday, August 02, 2011, 6:26 AM

 

By Steve Strunsky/The Star-Ledger

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Reena Rose Sibayan/The Jersey JournalAn aerial view of the New Jersey entrance into the Lincoln Tunnel is shown in this file photo. Authorities staked out the entrance this evening waiting to arrest two passengers on an NJ Transit bus who allegedly carried an air rifle on board.

WEEHAWKEN — Two men aboard an NJ Transit bus were arrested on weapons charges tonight when they were found in possession of an air rifle, authorities said.

The two were charged with possession of a weapon without a permit after they allegedly purchased the air rifle in Pennsylvania, where permits are not required for the guns, said Steve Coleman, a spokesman for the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Air rifles use compressed air to fire small-calliber pellets, typically .177 inches in diameter, though larger caliber variety are available. They are typically used for target practice.

A law enforcement official said the men, who were not immediately identified, were spotted on board the bus sometime before 7 p.m., in the area of the Vince Lombardi Service Area on the New Jersey Turnpike in Bergen County.

He said NJ Transit contacted the Port Authority Police Department, which staked out the toll plaza near the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel, waiting for the bus to arrive. Coleman said the two men were arrested without incident and without significant delays to tunnel traffic.

 

 

 

WTF? Permits are not required in NJ either, and they hadn't made it to NYC yet

WTF? Permits are not required in NJ either, and they hadn't made it to NYC yet

FID is required to buy an air rifle in NJ. And at the lincoln tunnel, they were GOING to enter NYC.

FID is required to buy an air rifle in NJ. And at the lincoln tunnel, they were GOING to enter NYC.

 

I'm unsure why PAPD would be worried about a "gun" going into NYC. Also, is an air rifle illegal in NYC? Upstate they aren't.

 

We also don't know if it was handgun or long gun.

I was also wondering what are the laws on Pellet/BB gun purchase by a NY resident, just assuming they are from NY and after all they did buy the gun in PA and not NJ. Also Mark like you said, we don't know what they bought, long or hand, or even how old they were??

I'm unsure why PAPD would be worried about a "gun" going into NYC. Also, is an air rifle illegal in NYC? Upstate they aren't.

 

We also don't know if it was handgun or long gun.

 

I'm assuming it was a long gun but yes, they're illegal in NYC.

I'm assuming it was a long gun but yes, they're illegal in NYC.

 

Wow, really, unbelievable.

OP, I'd do as other said and check the bus rules and regs. Otherwise there are no restrictions on the type of vehicle or method of conveyance you use to transport a gun, provided you adhere to the statutes on transport, aka unloaded, in a secure case, no unreasonable deviations, etc.

 

Airguns are protected under federal law. It supposedly provides preemption superseding any and all State and local laws on BB , paint ball, or pellet air guns. NJ and most likely NYC doesn't care and treats them as firearms. You can be charged with firearm violations under firearm statutes in NJ, and it is your dime and know-how to invoke the federal law in court to prove yourself innocent.

http://www.law.corne...01----000-.html

 

(g) Preemption of State or local laws or ordinances; exceptions

The provisions of this section shall supersede any provision of State or local laws or ordinances which provide for markings or identification inconsistent with provisions of this section provided that no State shall—

(i) prohibit the sale or manufacture of any look-alike, nonfiring, collector replica of an antique firearm developed prior to 1898, or

(ii) prohibit the sale (other than prohibiting the sale to minors) of traditional B–B, paint ball, or pellet-firing air guns that expel a projectile through the force of air pressure.

OP, I'd do as other said and check the bus rules and regs. Otherwise there are no restrictions on the type of vehicle or method of conveyance you use to transport a gun, provided you adhere to the statutes on transport, aka unloaded, in a secure case, no unreasonable deviations, etc.

 

Airguns are protected under federal law. It supposedly provides preemption superseding any and all State and local laws on BB , paint ball, or pellet air guns. NJ and most likely NYC doesn't care and treats them as firearms. You can be charged with firearm violations under firearm statutes in NJ, and it is your dime and know-how to invoke the federal law in court to prove yourself innocent.

http://www.law.corne...01----000-.html

 

That's the basis of the ANJRPC's lawsuit over OGAM... Speaking of that suit, has anybody else heard any updates? ANJRPC isn't exactly known for timely dissemination of information.

What happen to the days where you could just walk into Higbee's and get yourself a Red Ryder carbine-action, two hundred shot Range Model air rifle with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time?