Since we have a house in the Poconos, Im looking to get my PA resident ID card. Since I have been spending quite some time there recently, I feel that I should be entitled to dual residences, I have my dad write up a lease, getting a PO box (no mailboxs @ house in complex) for mail & finally opening a bank acct there, etc. I will be back up there tomorrow and hoping to get my paperwork from DMV. Wish me luck.

 

I see a PA resident LTCF, SBR, silencers & Class 3s in my future! -Lets go HR822!

good luck buddy

Sweet, hope you have a NJGF day up there to try all the cool toys .

Since we have a house in the Poconos, Im looking to get my PA resident ID card. Since I have been spending quite some time there recently, I feel that I should be entitled to dual residences, I have my dad write up a lease, getting a PO box (no mailboxs @ house in complex) for mail & finally opening a bank acct there, etc. I will be back up there tomorrow and hoping to get my paperwork from DMV. Wish me luck.

 

I see a PA resident LTCF, SBR, silencers & Class 3s in my future! -Lets go HR822!

 

Just walk into a gun shop and buy pistols. THAT would make it all worthwhile.

Hate to be Debbie Downer, but wasn't there a conversation on the forum a few months ago about how PA MVC will not give a person any ID if they have a DL in another state. If so, you may need to see if you can get some kind of county ID, like the counties in NJ issue.

 

I know you can you can buy as a PA resident with your NJ DL and a government issued bill that shows residency (tax bill, government utility bill). Not all dealers will sell to you that way, or even know they can sell to you that way, but some will. Good luck.

You can easily get a PA DL just as easy as getting a State ID. They do not take your old license, so it's up to you to turn in.

 

I also don't see why they would have issue with giving a state id if he is a resident of the state.

 

I also don't see why Alex got -1's to his post. Jealousy?

Hate to be Debbie Downer, but wasn't there a conversation on the forum a few months ago about how PA MVC will not give a person any ID if they have a DL in another state. If so, you may need to see if you can get some kind of county ID, like the counties in NJ issue.

 

 

This is true. See the final line in Box A here: http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/dl_forms/dl-54a.pdf I don't understand it myself....

This is true. See the final line in Box A here: http://www.dmv.state...orms/dl-54a.pdf I don't understand it myself....

 

I think most states are that way. They don't want you to have a drivers license in two different states. Surrender NJ and just have a PA license and be a PA resident.

Hate to be Debbie Downer, but wasn't there a conversation on the forum a few months ago about how PA MVC will not give a person any ID if they have a DL in another state. If so, you may need to see if you can get some kind of county ID, like the counties in NJ issue.

i looked into this earlier in the year, and found out you Can get a non-driver's resident ID. You can still keep your NJ driver's license and have a PA resident ID. They need 2 kinds of proof showing that you live in the state (utilities bill and a lease agreement or tax bill in your name) plus a photo ID showing you are who you say you are (use a passport, no address printed).

 

Wow its that easy? I own a home there for 20 years. Now the next question .Can we take our legally PA purchased firearms(pistols) back to NJ ?? I have a much more secure lock up here in NJ.

Wow its that easy? I own a home there for 20 years. Now the next question .Can we take our legally PA purchased firearms(pistols) back to NJ ?? I have a much more secure lock up here in NJ.

 

Any NJ Legal firearm purchased legally in a different state is legal to own in NJ.

Wow its that easy? I own a home there for 20 years. Now the next question .Can we take our legally PA purchased firearms(pistols) back to NJ ?? I have a much more secure lock up here in NJ.

 

Yes, Evan Nappen was very clear about this.

I think most states are that way. They don't want you to have a drivers license in two different states.

 

I understand that....but this application is for a Photo ID...not a DL.

A Government issued photo ID is required to purchase firearms from a dealer. A DL is not.

I have no idea how this works but hope your crazy ass can get one or both feet on land in America.

From the back of the 4473:

 

Know Your Customer: Before a licensee may sell or deliver a tirearm to a nonlieensee, the licensee must establish the identity, place of residence. and age of the buyer. The buyer must provide a valid government-is ued photo identification to the seller that contains the buyer's name. residence address, and date of birth. The licensee must record the type, identitieation number. and expiration date (if any) of the identification in qucstion 20.a. A driver's license or an identification card issued by a State in place of a license is acceptable. Social Security cards arc not acceptable because no address. date of birth, or photograph is shown on the cards. A combination of governmentissue- d documents may bc provided. For example, if a U.S. citizen has two Slates of residence and is trying to buy a handgun in State X, he may provide a driver's license (showing his name, date of birth, and photograph) issucd by State Y and another govcrnment-issued document such as a tax document) from State X showing his residence address. If thc buyer is a mcmber of tbe Armed Forces on active duty acquiring a tirearm in the State where his or her permanent duty slation is locatcd, but he or she has a driver's license from another State. you should list the buyer's military identitieation card and official orders showing where his or her pennanent duty station is located in response to question 20.a.

I understand that....but this application is for a Photo ID...not a DL.

 

You want a NJ driver's license and a PA resident photo ID. I don't think you can be a resident legally in two states simultaneously.

You want a NJ driver's license and a PA resident photo ID. I don't think you can be a resident legally in two states simultaneously.

so how do rich people with multiple residences in multiple states do it?

From the back of the 4473:

 

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Know Your Customer: Before a licensee may sell or deliver a tirearm to a nonlieensee, the licensee must establish the identity, place of residence. and age of the buyer. The buyer must provide a valid government-is ued photo identification to the seller that contains the buyer's name. residence address, and date of birth. The licensee must record the type, identitieation number. and expiration date (if any) of the identification in qucstion 20.a. A driver's license or an identification card issued by a State in place of a license is acceptable. Social Security cards arc not acceptable because no address. date of birth, or photograph is shown on the cards. A combination of governmentissue- d documents may bc provided. For example, if a U.S. citizen has two Slates of residence and is trying to buy a handgun in State X, he may provide a driver's license (showing his name, date of birth, and photograph) issucd by State Y and another govcrnment-issued document such as a tax document) from State X showing his residence address. If thc buyer is a mcmber of tbe Armed Forces on active duty acquiring a tirearm in the State where his or her permanent duty slation is locatcd, but he or she has a driver's license from another State. you should list the buyer's military identitieation card and official orders showing where his or her pennanent duty station is located in response to question 20.a.

 

 

 

Holly crap, it's getting worse than I thought...

 

Paul, tell me you had you copied and pasted that and there was en error in that, because if you typed that out, man, you do go the extra mile and then some..

Copy and paste from THIS LINK. I had to correct a few mistakes, but missed that one. Somehow my computer converted some letters to symbols and different letters.

You want a NJ driver's license and a PA resident photo ID. I don't think you can be a resident legally in two states simultaneously.

 

You absolutely can be.

if you are a "resident" in two different states.. does that mean that you need to pay taxes in two states? I guess not since income is only earned in NJ?

if you are a "resident" in two different states.. does that mean that you need to pay taxes in two states? I guess not since income is only earned in NJ?

 

This can be tricky, u dont pay double taxes on income, that would be absurd. My father worked in NY and lived in NJ, he did pay taxes to both NY and NJ, not sure how much. He tried to explain it to me once and it went right over my head.

You pay taxes because he is a primary resident in NJ and works in NY. My wife and I have to file in NY also.

 

In this equation, he would not be paying taxes in the other state because it is not his primary residence. If he owned, He would be paying property taxes. Since he is only renting, no taxes are collected.

You pay taxes because he is a primary resident in NJ and works in NY. My wife and I have to file in NY also.

 

In this equation, he would not be paying taxes in the other state because it is not his primary residence. If he owned, He would be paying property taxes. Since he is only renting, no taxes are collected.

I was speaking in terms of income tax. Obviously if you own property anywhere u have to pay tax on that. If you declare yourself a resident of a state, regardless of "primary residency" they are going to want to tax your income, and the state you work in is also going to want to tax your income. There's probably a way around it, but didn't NY just start taxing people who owned vacation homes there, not even residents..

if you are a "resident" in two different states.. does that mean that you need to pay taxes in two states? I guess not since income is only earned in NJ?

 

It varies quite a bit. It depends on the states in question, and sometimes cities have added taxes as well.

 

But this is only coming from a person that actually pays "income" taxes in multiple states, so I will defer to the experts.

Generally you get a credit from one state for taxes paid in another.

 

When I worked overseas many years ago, I paid taxes in the country I worked. The taxes I paid there were less than my tax liability here, so I had to pay the difference to the Federal governmnet. If, my foreign taxes were the same or higher, then I wouldn't have owed the Federal government anything.

 

Works similar with the states.

Generally you get a credit from one state for taxes paid in another.

 

Often, not always. And, a much more common problem, you can be charged municipal income taxes from working in a state other than your own and receive no credit in your own state. Some of the cities have taxes that rival or exceed state income taxes.

 

There are even states and even municipalities that charge you taxes specifically because you work out of state. How is that for a slap in the face? You work in another state, take the money away from their state, bring it back to your state to spend, in most cases pay the income taxes in your own state, AND pay extra taxes because you earned the money out of state.

I was speaking in terms of income tax. Obviously if you own property anywhere u have to pay tax on that. If you declare yourself a resident of a state, regardless of "primary residency" they are going to want to tax your income, and the state you work in is also going to want to tax your income. There's probably a way around it, but didn't NY just start taxing people who owned vacation homes there, not even residents..

You can be a dual resident as far as the ATF is concerned for firearm purchases. As far as I know, you can only be a resident of one state for income tax purposes. This doesn't mean that another state will not tax you if you work there, it just means that you will file taxes as a resident or nonresident.

 

Buying firearms as a dual resident has nothing to do with your tax filing status.

After a crazy weekend, I didnt get a chance to get to PA. I will try again this week. Unfort, PA DMV is ONLY open on Thursday & Saturdays. Imagine that in NJ!